Just thought some of you might want to know, I just finshed drawings on a revised ITR 4-2-1 header. If you've seen pictures before you know that the current layout has 3 tubes close to the oil pan and the #4 in between and below #2 & #3. This is all thanks to that support bracket. The first production ITR header required modification to that bracket which was not acceptable and the next version did away with the modification but lost a little ground clearance, which was unacceptable to some future customers, hence the redesign.

The new layout will a modified version of my flat tube GSR style header but will have 2 tubes close to the oil pan and centered in the "valley" between the sump and the bracket. #4 tube will be located slightly below #3 and towards the tranny and the #1 slightly below #2 and towards the oil pan sump. I hope this arrangement will yield a loss of roughly a 1/4" of ground clearance as compared to the ITR JDM header when measured at the lowest point of the oil pan (near the drain plug).

If all goes well, I'll be bringing it to VIR on Sunday morning to be installed on Warren's car.

SMSP - Who is off to work on the jig

 

Nicey nice....

D

 

Is this forum the only way of getting ahold of you? If you could please post a contact number. I'm in the market for a new header, cat and exhaust and was wondering some specs of your header. I went to the website listed in your profile and it routes me back to H-T.
TIA


[Modified by 2k1TypeR0610, 10:53 PM 2/14/2002]

 

Very nice, I am glad I am on the waiting list for Dave's new Type R header

 

You can get in touch wiht Dave by emailing him.
smsproducts@novacoxmail.com
He will awnser any questions you have.
LATER

 

Warren...... Shmarren....

What about me?

Bryan

 

I dont think Dave makes headers for jeeps...

 

I'm so demanding! Big thanks to Dave on this one. Damn, I better go find some earplugs for this weekend. Things are gonna get noisy. My car just might actually sound like a racecar soon! Or a fartcan, depending on your tastes.

Warren

 

yea, i bet Dave could make one hell of a header for a CJ7. LOL.

Mike K- who has two headers on "the waiting list"

 

If I can get some help posting pictures and can get them up tonight. Ground clearance on the new header is very good I believe but there are 1 or 2 adjustments that will be made for the following run of headers. The LS block that I use as part of my jig doesn't have the same webbing as the B18C blocks so Warren had to do a little grinding on me. He did say he like the header though.

 

George, I was expecting to see you at VIR today?

SMSP - Who thinks George was tossing a few today in Northern VA

 

ENJOY. SMSP #1

 

Thanks Tom!

Just hit it with some black paint, it will be going to the coaters after next weekend's event and after I change out the collector tabs.

A couple of changes will be made to #3 tube before the next one is built and that will take care of the interference issue with the block.

The block/tranny bracket doesn't have to be modified in any way for this header to fit, the only things that needs to be done is removal of the 2 smaller bolts on the bracket. The 2 main large bolts are fine.


[Modified by SMSP, 8:06 PM 2/17/2002]

 

only 83days 12hours 16minutes and 13 seconds 12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,...

I cant hardly wait.

Great pics dave

 

that is modern art.

 

Once again, art for your motor...
Very nice...


Jason

 

Damn, that is sexy

Great job Dave

 

What happened to the design that worked with the Moroso oil pan? Was that an ITR header?

 

Thanks guys

The header used with the modified Moroso pan was for a B20VTEC header which uses larger primaries and secondaries than the ITR/GSR (B18VTEC) headers. When using the SMSP Spec Moroso pan the tubes can be laid flat between the sump and the bell housing thus giving near stock ground clearance for the B20VTEC header ( header just hangs a tad, maybe a 1/8" to 1/4" at the most, below the pan. When using the SMSP Spec Moroso pan with a B18VTEC header the pan should be lower than the header.

BTW, if anyone is interested in these pans I should be making an order with Moroso this week.

 

Damn that is a bad azz header!

 

Looks nice "thumbup:

sackdz - who may add to "the list"

 

I was there and you didn't even come over to say hey!

Thanks,
Victor Perri II

 

SMSP: If I don't need to run either a cat or test pipe and just bolt the header directly up to the catback, would this allow you to make a header that would make even more power than your current one?

I mean if you don't need to worry about bolting the header up to the cat/test pipe, you should have more freedom on your design, and should able to get more power out of it.

 

2 Stupid questions from me, b/c I am a dumbass

1) What is the difference b/w 4-2-1 and 4-1 besides pipes.. i.e. power gains?

2) Can I run an SMSP header if I have A/C?

 

Smsp/ Moroso pan.