I am looking to get a coilover for my 01 prelude, and was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the D2 coilovers. I was also looking at tein flex's, so any reviews on them are welcome.

I did a search and found nothing with regard to the D2's. Thanks

 

I would ask hawkze_2.3
He just purchased them not too long ago. I will be ordering my set as soon as I have the money. Much better than tein ss or flex's in my opinion

 

Why do you think they are better. Just curious, on my last car I had Apexi N1 type V's, and they were absolutely amazing. I'm not expecting them to be as good, but just something good for the street and occassional track use, hopefully.

 

The d2's seem to have more flexibility and adjustablilty. They are 36 way dampening adjustable, and also have aluminum shock bodys and teflon threads so you get no rust. The lower teins that are even close to being comparable in price are steel and they rust out often I've heard. eddiebx can also tell you more about them than me only because he's a distributer.

 

What do you guys think about KSport coilovers? I'm trying to decide whether to get these or some Tein Type Flex dampers for my 1997 Type-SH. Here are the websites:

http://www.tein.com
http://www.ksportusa.com

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The d2's seem to have more flexibility and adjustablilty. They are 36 way dampening adjustable, and also have aluminum shock bodys and teflon threads so you get no rust. The lower teins that are even close to being comparable in price are steel and they rust out often I've heard. eddiebx can also tell you more about them than me only because he's a distributer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

just so you know, the "ways of adjustability" are completely misleading without a shock dyno.

click 12 could be the same of as click 34, they just divided the revolutions into more clicks vs. say a 12 way or 4 way or 3 way adjustable shock.

also, aluminum shock bodies aren't always what they're cracked up to be, since aluminum tends to be brittle and cracks more than steel.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just so you know, the "ways of adjustability" are completely misleading without a shock dyno.

click 12 could be the same of as click 34, they just divided the revolutions into more clicks vs. say a 12 way or 4 way or 3 way adjustable shock.

also, aluminum shock bodies aren't always what they're cracked up to be, since aluminum tends to be brittle and cracks more than steel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sure, I see your point, but as far as I know, they are doing shock dyno's now, I will talk to eddiebx and see what he came up with.

 

with the d2's you're at least getting a great bang for the buck. they probably woulnd't compare to a setup twice the price but.. you get what you pay for... mostly. I've talked to hawkze and he seemed to like them quite a bit. But i'm sure when he see's this he'll tell you for himself

 

D2's have already been dynoed in the suspension forum on here. It's basically a 3 point adjustable shock that doesn't have a very good adjustment range nor does it have a very nice dampening curve. It's low speed dampening is.. well, that which you expect from a low end shock system.

 

made in taiwan

 

not gonna argue the shock dynos, as I am that into all the techincal aspects of shocks and suspensions, but I have yet to have a customer order a set and tell me, yo the low speed dampening sucks!

all i know is I am happy with the handling of my own car, and am overall happy with the product after using them for over a year on my daily driver / weekend racer. I don't really pay attention to all the specs and rumors. I just gave it a try and liked what I got out of them.

quite honestly it's a new name and there will be skeptisim and haters, if you wanna be detered by that the so be it, nothing I can really say or do to sway you either way.


and so what if they are made in taiwan? if you only knew how much of the import aftermarket products are made in taiwan, including the ever so precious JDM brands.

 

I could care less about where they're made. If they were made in Ubershockistan it wouldn't matter to me. But the main issue is that have you even had any customers come back with ANY needle based shock adjustment type that said "these shocks need more low speed dampening." I'm going to assume that you haven't in general, as almost all Japanese aftermarket shocks use this type. Which always leads to the problem of a bit low low speed dampening. The only company in Japan that I know doesn't use this is Showa, but they make very few non custom shocks that are adjustable.

In the end, the D2 shock dyno shows that 33 out of it's 36 clicks are useless. Which is sort of typical for the design (usually it's only around 70%) and the dampening rate is just... mediocre. You may believe that it's good, but technically speaking there's a lot of shocks that do their job much better than the D2's for the same price or a little higher. As I said before, you get what you pay for. An entry level suspension system. I don't recall anyone doing a test of their springs yet however, which is generally always a problem for many coilover companies as their springs aren't up to par, or even, as many don't even specify, they substitute progressive springs into the mix to keep the ride quality up. I'm not saying D2 does this, but it's been seen before.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by girLuder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">made in taiwan </TD></TR></TABLE>

just like the Teins....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TimeRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I could care less about where they're made. If they were made in Ubershockistan it wouldn't matter to me. But the main issue is that have you even had any customers come back with ANY needle based shock adjustment type that said "these shocks need more low speed dampening." I'm going to assume that you haven't in general, as almost all Japanese aftermarket shocks use this type. Which always leads to the problem of a bit low low speed dampening. The only company in Japan that I know doesn't use this is Showa, but they make very few non custom shocks that are adjustable.

In the end, the D2 shock dyno shows that 33 out of it's 36 clicks are useless. Which is sort of typical for the design (usually it's only around 70%) and the dampening rate is just... mediocre. You may believe that it's good, but technically speaking there's a lot of shocks that do their job much better than the D2's for the same price or a little higher. As I said before, you get what you pay for. An entry level suspension system. I don't recall anyone doing a test of their springs yet however, which is generally always a problem for many coilover companies as their springs aren't up to par, or even, as many don't even specify, they substitute progressive springs into the mix to keep the ride quality up. I'm not saying D2 does this, but it's been seen before. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yah like i said i am not too deep into the technicals of shock dynos and what not, so i wouldnt even know what to argue

as far as the springs, they are definitely not progressive, all are linear rate springs. I have a few various rate springs laying around my garage that are my personal springs which i dont mind sending out to eibach or whom ever for testing, as long as i get them back Everytime I tried to get in touch with that eibach dood thats on HT he's always busy so I dont wanna bother him. I have some 13k, 11k and 5k i think sittin around gotta go look, might have some others

 

I think that they're a great choice for someone who wants to enjoy their daily driver more as far as ride, handling, height adjustability, etc. I have tried the loosest and the tightest damping settings and no, there is barely a difference.

Other good points are the aluminum construction, great fitment, and choice of spring rates. I'm not a hardcore autocrosser (yet ), but I'm happy with them on my car so far.

 

anyone know which way to harden up the dampers?

clockwise or counter clockwise?

Thanks in advance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone know which way to harden up the dampers?

clockwise or counter clockwise?

Thanks in advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

on the teins:
clockwise = hard
counter-clockwise = soft

 

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on the teins:
clockwise = hard
counter-clockwise = soft
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i was talking about the d2's

 

Ksport!!!!

 

hypothetical situation.

I am driving down the road and something freak happens and the valving on one of them blows.

would D2 inspect it and repair it or just replace it?

 

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Ksport suck!!! j/p have'nt seen em in reality but I hear they are very nice quality. And Andy (body kits nw) is the **** so pretty much if he has them on his car you can bet your *** they are well worth every penny. Andy is the shizzle so go buy them now

 

whats the F/R spring rates for the street model D2s?

 

7k/5k but we can load wahtever rates you want on there

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">7k/5k but we can load wahtever rates you want on there</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep like me i loaded mines with 19k and 17k.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep like me i loaded mines with 19k and 17k. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i'll say the same thing as i said when i sold them, your crazy,