just wondering what your opinions (performance, handling) are on this car? i hear quite a bit of trash talking on this car by other owners (ie. integra owners rs, ls, gsr and civic ex owners) saying its well overrated and that its nothing but an ex other than having two cams instead of one.

 

127hp for EX

and gear ratios for Si are same as ITR

Brian
-driver of a POS

 

I think a 99-00 GSR cost about $5k more. That's alot more money.

 

5K is less than $50 per mont in payments.

Si is only good for beating EX four doors!

 

GSR is a m uch better platform to mod, IMO. The extra displacement helps tremendously, especially if you get an ITR or Si tranny

 

If I ever got a civic, that would be it.

 

1000prm of usable vtec? vtec engages at 5500 the redline is 8200 how is that 1000? and the gearing is pretty much like type r's, and the price is 16,500 brand new where the hell did you get 18,000? when i bought my car the sticker price was 16,500.
these are the things that separate the si's from the ex
b16
stiffer suspenion
better front A arms
four wheel disc brake
thicker front sway bar
has a rear sway bar
lower lip
different grill
different gauge cluster and amber light up center console
pretty much all that for about 3000 more
and the horsepower rating for ex is 127 and the si is 160


[Modified by Gump, 11:28 PM 2/13/2002]


[Modified by Gump, 11:34 PM 2/13/2002]

 

odd, whenever i shift at 8k it doesnt fall out of VTEC

Brian

 

do you fall out of vtec in your type r?


[Modified by Gump, 11:42 PM 2/13/2002]

 

well if you don't fall out of vtec in your R then you shouldn't fall out of vtec in an si, maybe you were just being lazy in the si


[Modified by Gump, 11:51 PM 2/13/2002]

 

Si is an ok car. without a vtec controller tho, evertime you redline the thing and shift it falls out of vtec. lacks torque, mushy clutch....well u get the idea

 

ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT MY GIRL HAS AN 00 SI AND I LIKE IT I TOOK IT TO THE 1/8 MILE TRACK AN RAN A 9.8@71MPH AND MY 60FT WAS A 2.2 I THINK THATS GOOD FOR JUST HAVING A SHORT SHIFTER AND A AIR INTAKE.AND WHEN I SHIFT AT 7900 I DONT DROP OUT OF VTEC IN THE SI.WHAT EVER YOU ARE DOING IS WRONG SHIFT FASTER!!!

 

umm! the gearing of the si keeps it in the vtec powerban, it only falls about 900 rpm when i change gears in my si, and i don't have a vtec controller


[Modified by Gump, 12:00 AM 2/14/2002]


[Modified by Gump, 12:01 AM 2/14/2002]

 

get a gsr. an itr is just a pepped up gsr anyway.

 

Not really man, the whole chassis is different, oh screw it, im not even gonna try. Yes, yes it is a "pepped up" GSR

 

My friend usually say its an "overpriced' gsr heh.. As for SI, its a fun car to drive around the city. Yes it doesn't have gobs of torque or hp, but it does have its moments If you give me a choice though, i'll go for a GSR.

 

I traded an 00 Civic Si in on my 01 ITR and it is night and day. The Si is a great car but is really underpowered. I added just about every bolt on possible and still did not get the performance that the ITR gives stock. It is good as a daily driver but not as a performance oriented machine.

 

As an ex SI owner I will tell you all that are reporting that you drop out of vtec when shifting at redline is really based on your driving. If you think that the SI will act like the ITR when shifting your all wrong. It might have the same gearing and all but no where does it drop out of vtec when I shifted on that thing. Yes its an upgraded EX and the bitch sucked on braking since it had no ******* abs system and for the price it wasn't that bad at all. They were selling EX's for more than 16k almost and I got the SI for 175xx. It's a great commuter car and the EBP color complimented the looks of the car. It was the bang for the buck for under 20k and I think it still is. Now I have an ITR. People can say that it is an expensive GSR but it wasn't really that much more for the stuff that you get.

I give the SI to the GSR's


[Modified by icefire069, 1:12 PM 2/14/2002]

 

I have driven a few Si's....I wanted one in high school, glad I bought a GSR. Every one thought the Si, was some thing special when it first came out, what they didn't all realize is that Honda had made a similar priced car which would smoke Si's for the past five years(GSR)....
I have always heared from a lot of people that the B16 has a lot of potential, but as for me I don't see it.
If you get an Si just be sure to get one with Altezza's and a fart cannon....this way you can blend in with other Si owners.
Sorry, but around here that is the reputation that has been earned for the Si.

 

The reason why I got the ITR instead of keeping the SI. Too many idiot people out there drivng the SI and some people get the blame for their stupidity by having their cars keyed TWICE because they might have thought it was my car that did it. At least I didnt bother to drop a turbo when I had planned on it when I first got it. It would have been a waste of my money.

 

hey fuzz, as an owner of 2 si's, (one my red civic you have seen, the other a DEAD stock 99 si) and a itr enthusiast i can honestly say it is an excellent platform to start with. not quite as potent as the itr stock, but a good platform nonetheless. sure, the clutch is a tad weak, it is in dire need of a gear and a lsd, and the suspension needs some firming up and it needs a larger rear bar but IMHO much better to start out with than say a 92-95 civic (stock for stock, engine swaps excluded) it's not that slow.....if you want to race, and have some spare money you don't mind losing, let me know, i'll meet you at an autocross....

 

If I lost to an Si, I would cut my own foot off.


I sense this thread is about to be closed.... Why don't we have ClubtypeR?????


[Modified by Rdriver, 1:40 PM 2/14/2002]

 

come up to n.y. ......we'll see that you will save some money on shoes....

 

aw damn, you mean i have to get altezzas and a fart can so i can fit in?

Brian

 

very good point!!