I've been looking around for a good place to get a B18C1 or B18C5 block Sleeved. I don't know what block I'm going to be building up yet. I saw http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/street.html Who I thought looked like a great CO. and looks like great work. but I also found Benson Machine Sleeved blocks & cranks on https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=565375. I just wanted to know if anyone has there block from any of the two, and what one do you think is better. Thanks.

 

I predict a pissing match.

 

Benson,

do some searching. your answer is there.

platinum.

 

thats the one!!!!!!

 

"Best" is relative, there are several companies that do a good job. RLZ did mine and I've had no problems with it. I've heard good things about ERL from locals here who have had blocks sleeved. Just find somebody who does it right.

 

Mr. Povacz,

I like to think that we do pretty good work. As you have seen from our site, we have the fastest sport compact 4 cyl. cars in the WORLD running our blocks, hands down. If you ever need any other questions answered, or would just like to talk about your set-up, I am always on here to help.

Below you will find some detailed information that may help to answer some of your questions.
To get your B18C engine sleeved includes the following:

* Golden Eagle Mfg. HD sleeves ( bore capability up to 85 mm)
* Installation - all done by precision CNC machines for perfect tolerances and dimensions
* Decking - a step deck is standard**
* Jet Wash Cleaning
* 100% inspection of your block, including pressure testing
* Warranty - Lifetime on the sleeves and 1 yr. on the installation

Price is $850 for the above procedure.
Big Bore option is $950 and allows an 87 mm bore ( Race Only All-Motor )
Turn around time is approx. 7 working days.
We can accept PayPal, credit cards, money order and personal or business checks.
** Step deck is a decking process that makes the sleeves stick up proud of the block .003" for extra combustion chamber seal.
We do offer discounts for multiple engine sleeve jobs. Please ask for details.

Optional machining includes:

* O-ring - a small copper wire installed around the cylinder to add extra sealing for the head gasket. Max bore size available to 85 mm. Recommended for turbo. ($50)
* Line Bore - to make sure the crank main journals are straight and perfect size. ($220)
* Bore and hone - to perfect specification. Tolerances are .0002" taper / .0002" round with a plateau hone for extremely quick ring seal. ($125)
* Bead Blasting - cleans the outside of the block to look brand new. ($30)

We can also do any engine building you need. We have a full staff of professional engine machining and building personal and can offer you some of the finest engine building available. All engine builds include:

* Block inspection, 100% cleaned and bead blasted to look brand new!
* Arias Pistons ( shelf pistons or custom ) Arias is our piston of choice. We have used them, and other pistons, and have found Arias to be superior!
* Eagle, Crower, Pauter, Cunningham or aluminum BME rods. ( depending on your budget and hp goals )
* Bore and Hone ( perfect clearance for smooth, quiet operation and longevity. Our plateau hone requires less break-in for extremely quick ring seal. Tolerances held = Taper .0002", Round .0002" )
* Line bore ( most companies do not offer this because it is too expensive. Crank tunnel is re-aligned to be perfectly straight and within .0001" on size. )
* Sized crank ( done to obtain PERFECT bearing clearances. We don't just match colors by code, we actually measure and size the crank as needed to our turbo race engine clearances )
* Balanced rotating assembly ( not offered by most other engine builders. Our rotating assemblies are electronically balanced to 10,000 RPM for extremely smooth operation throughout the RPM range )
* ACL race bearings ( coated bearings used in EVERY race engine we assemble )
* New oil pump
* New bottom end gasket set ( oil pan, main seals and oil pickup )
* Fully blueprinted and assembled. You get a spec sheet back with your block dictating the bearing clearances, piston to wall, all product part #'s, etc.

For more info on engine build pricing, please send us an e-mail with any and all of your questions. We also offer the highest quality headwork. From port and polish to complete head and valve train assembly, we can do it all.

If you ever have any questions, please feel free to let us know anytime. We appreciate your interest and hope to do business with you soon.

Regards,
Vince Tiaga
Golden Eagle Mfg.
http://www.GoldenEagleMfg.com
Sales@GoldenEagleMfg.com
(909) 592 - 4311 ext. 104

 

golden eagle

 

what do you think about Darton Sleaves?

 

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As good as anything else, but the quality of the sleeving job is largely dependant on the sleever, not the sleeves

 

Golden eagle all the way!!!!

 

golden eagle, benson's, Darton, AEBS, ERL are all good. people have pushed all these blocks 500whp+. There is no "BEST"

 

Never a problem with Golden Eagle, but if you have to be different, Jim Justice in Maryland.

 

here we go again.......i am staying out of this one.just a spectator this time.


harv

 

I had my H22 done by Steve Dermerjian at Race engine development in CA. He used to be the guy Darton sent their stuff to before they started doing them inhouse. I live in NJ and had the block sent and delivered in under 2 weeks. He installed sleeves, bored it, honed, decked, and align honed it for $750 with shipping (shipping was $85). I would recomend him just as much.

 

i push 18 psi daily...around 400 horses...Golden Eagle working awesome so far

 

I've always been a fan of Bensons.


to Golden Eagle for the details on thier work. I'd send a block there as well.

 

ERL the work and service is awesome Hit shawn up to find out more 812-948-8484

 

Golden Eagle, they also got the lifetime warranty like he mentioned

 

DART!
Any of the companys do a good job. Ive talked to Vince before about building a block but i decide on something else.

 

z10 in Neptune, NJ; it's close to you as well...

Jim and Rob do not mess around....

 

i heard good things about ERL as well. my friends shop first state motorsports use them exclusively. when i had mine done, my local machine shop did mine on their bridgeport. took them a while but it is holding 17psi woth no issues.

 

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I agree this oh so old of an argument,10 years ago maybe it was a different story, but today with the technology there is no best ust a matter of what sticker you wanna put on your car.....damn ricers!

 

I'll agree with everyone else that says it boils down to who does the labor. The product is almost the same. I had one of the first solid-deck Darton pro-kit sleeve jobs (AEBS style) when they came out for my built b16a at the time. Currently I run a 84.5mm GE b18c5 shortblock. I haven't had any problems with either setup...

 

not trying to thread hijack but i have a question for GE, i have an old school pinned block(with pins going through the block pushing against cylinders)and was wondering if it could still be sleeved, not worried about keeping the pins just have a spare block and wondered if it can be fixed.

 

thanks to everyone.