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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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I need to know fast. I have to decide by tomorrow. I have an EG Hatch and I just bought Tokico Illuminas to replace the stock suspension. I also purchased some Eibach springs on Ebay. But I have to decide if I want pro kit or sportline. I searched, but didnt find a lot. I autocross and it is my daily driver.

I want the sportlines, but I have a couple questions...

1. will i need a camber kit?
2. anyone have firsthand experience with sportlines, how low is the actual drop on an EG hatch? did you like the ride, etc.
3. will i have to worry about speedbumps and the likes?

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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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sportlines will drop your car about 1.8 inches, while the pro kit will drop it 1.3inches. The sportlines are a comfortable spring for daily driving and u should have no problems with speed bumps. A camber kit is not necessary but an alignment to fix the toe is a must. Hope this helps.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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thanks, do you know this firsthand? what do drive or where did you find that info?
I have read that number from websites and stuff, but i always hear that those numbers are not always right. I was looking for actual drop, not advertised.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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well, I decided on prokit. Did a bunch of searching and found that sportlines just dont get very good reviews. Read alot of great reviews on prokits, so that is what i am getting. Besides, I cant afford to have my car "slammed" by any means, because I live in Oklahoma and the roads suck.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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dont get the prokit. that **** sits high. you wont even be able to tell its lowered.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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do you know this from experience? like they are on your car? I am looking for performance, not lowering. And the prokits are a little lowering with performance.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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yes you will need a camber kit. I have them myself and one of my friends also. if you dont get a camber kit, you will have negative camber which will wear the inside of the tire irregularly.

Its not fun replacing tires every year

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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINEAPPLE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you will need a camber kit. I have them myself and one of my friends also. if you dont get a camber kit, you will have negative camber which will wear the inside of the tire irregularly.
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I'm running the pro-kits for my DD / AutoX car. You can see my sig for pics of the drop; and it's just about perfect for me.

You don't need a camber kit, but you do need an alignment. Toe will kill tires, not camber, your car was designed to have some negative camber.

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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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that is a sweet ride, AutoXer. and that is just what I needed to hear. I am going with the pro kits. If I dont like them, then I will just have to learn the hard way. But I think I will like them. I will give you an update with pics and everything when I get them on
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINEAPPLE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you will need a camber kit. I have them myself and one of my friends also. if you dont get a camber kit, you will have negative camber which will wear the inside of the tire irregularly.

Its not fun replacing tires every year </TD></TR></TABLE>

oh no the negative camber monster is responsible for a bad world economy and ugly chicks on TV!!!

tons of negative camber may not be for everyone, but a couple of degrees of neg. camber has never hurt anyone. on a 1.3" drop it's probably more like -1.0 degrees, aka, still within spec and nothing to worry about.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

oh no the negative camber monster is responsible for a bad world economy and ugly chicks on TV!!!

tons of negative camber may not be for everyone, but a couple of degrees of neg. camber has never hurt anyone. on a 1.3" drop it's probably more like -1.0 degrees, aka, still within spec and nothing to worry about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was referring to the sportlines people.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINEAPPLE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was referring to the sportlines people. </TD></TR></TABLE>

even on a 1.8" drop the ensuing negative camber angles are not bad at all.

depending on the chassis, it's what, -1.8 degrees? until it hits -4 i don't think there's all that much cause for concern.

camber kits are mostly for camber tuning purposes--it's a shame that so many people think they need them, rather, it's a shame that so many people think that they need so little negative camber.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

even on a 1.8" drop the ensuing negative camber angles are not bad at all.

depending on the chassis, it's what, -1.8 degrees? until it hits -4 i don't think there's all that much cause for concern.

camber kits are mostly for camber tuning purposes--it's a shame that so many people think they need them, rather, it's a shame that so many people think that they need so little negative camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I totally agreee with you. I normally would think that you wouldnt need a camber kit unnless you go lower. But in my case I did.

I dont know if its a thing in my area but I am just stating my experience because I have them, and I know other pople who have them who have the exact same problem whether it be with a prelude, civic whatever. I guess it may be different for others.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Default Re: (AutoXer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running the pro-kits for my DD / AutoX car. You can see my sig for pics of the drop; and it's just about perfect for me.

You don't need a camber kit, but you do need an alignment. Toe will kill tires, not camber, your car was designed to have some negative camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what struts are you running?

also kinda a general question... how would sportlines do for a dd/autoxer?
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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I would imagine that sportlines would do a little better on autoX, but would not be as comfortable for DD. Just my guess...
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sol2hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would imagine that sportlines would do a little better on autoX, but would not be as comfortable for DD. Just my guess...</TD></TR></TABLE>

not necessarily.. I have driven a DC with the pro kit and sportline springs. both were set to -1.0 camber front and rear. 0 toe front and rear. The sportlines are a soft spring, and would bottom out on hard transitions. I have not had that problem with the prokit. (same shocks in both situations)
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