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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Default SAFC II- fuel running rich and low not sure how to configure

i have a mini-me swap all bored out with t3 turbo , i have a b&m fuel pressure regulator on the car when i got it and im not sure if this would be any help i have my fuel curve for high and lo throttle all at -50, the car was running good and then i brought it home and i reved it and some white smoke started comming out of the exhaust, im very positive it shouldnt be at -50 but i dont want to mess with it and run into bigger problems, what im asking is if anyone knows how i should have my fuel curve set at???
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: SAFC II- fuel running rich and low not sure how to configure (91backslash)

get a wideband and go by these air/fuel ratios

14.7 at cruise, light load
13.5 - 14.0 under a bit of load and acceleration conditions
13.0 at you cross the Vac/Boost threshhold...
12.0 - 12.5 in boost up to 5 psi
11.7 - 12.0 from 5 psi and up (to 10psi)

Those are 'safe' recommendations...
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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anyone else that can help??????
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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Default Re: SAFC II- fuel running rich and low not sure how to configure (91backslash)

You got the correct answer - either get to a dyno or get a wideband O2 setup and do it yourself.

Where did you get the idea that you should set the SAFC to -50% across the board?

What else does the setup consist of? Are you using stock injectors?
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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i didnt when i bought the car it was set up in the -40's range and it was running pretty good so i figured i'd wait till i can find someone to configure my settings but i am using dsm 450cc injectors with a walbro fuel pump and sometimes the car will chug and it wants to cut out so could it be the fuel pump?? it tends to make an odd noise sometimes
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Do a search for the VAFC Hack - its essentially what you are running and the 'problems' that you're describing are sort of a result from running it that way.

The B&M fuel regulator - is this the one you install over top of the stock FPR? Do you have a FPR gauge?
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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You have a turbo right? well this is what i would start off at but you will need a wideband or your going to run to rich.

3500/ -30
4000/ -28
4500/ -26
5000/-25
6000/ -22
6500/ -21
7000/ -20

do this on both high and low settings. just something to start with. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU DONT HAVE A WIDEBAND
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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thank you very much!!! ordered wideband, hopefully it will be here in about a week.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Not trying to be a dick, but to make you life easier if you get a wideband say the innovate lm-1. Get the rpm converter other wise when tuning you have to guess what rpm a certain a/r is and its a pain in the ***. Just from experience
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