so i am looking to buy a gsr and use it for autocross, daily driver and some track days, but every body i know which most of them have civic efs tell me how bad they handle and how heavy they are . so i am wondering how good do dc gsr's handle and if it could keep up with a ef .
thanks for the help dont flame me to bad

 

in my experiance an integra vs an ef si in equal trim the ef will be faster at autocross unless the course is dumb straight (3rd gear m-club type courses). on track, the gsr will be faster since there are less harsh transittions.

-the ef *****

 

thanks for the feedback

 

They are going to move the 99-00 Si down to H-Stock next year, and I think it would be pretty competition to the Mini's, so if you could find one of thoose the would be worth it if it is stock.

 

All things equal (say... Street Touring trim) the EF will be a better autocrosser simply due to its light weight.
On the track, the GSR wins because it can use its power on straights.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Catch 22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the track, the GSR wins because it can use its power on straights.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Except at tracks where the H4 lap record is faster than the H3 record

 

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Except at tracks where the H4 lap record is faster than the H3 record </TD></TR></TABLE>

Put the same driver in both cars, with equal prep levels, and see if this is still true.

 

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Put the same driver in both cars, with equal prep levels, and see if this is still true.
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Until then, I'll keep pretending my EF is teh best caR evAr

 

well how big of a deferance is there could would the gsr be close to the ef ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFMAN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well how big of a deferance is there could would the gsr be close to the ef ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends on how far you want to go. What class do you intend to run?

If you're just looking to have a good time, then you're thinking way too far into this. Go out, enjoy your car, and have fun. You'll learn a lot. The car is definitely not bad. I've seen an STS '98 GSR with the right driver whoop on the '89 Civic Si's. They are heavy but with the right preparation they don't handle nearly as bad as it seems your friends believe.

Come back to this decision after a few more years, once you have some experience in driving events.

 

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Until then, I'll keep pretending my EF is teh best caR evAr </TD></TR></TABLE>

Pretend if you will, believe if you must, truth you do not face (my Yoda impression ) but from my experience w/ Seck's and Dubinski's GSRs, its no competition over the course of a full lap with either of them or their respective co-drivers. And I am comparing a pretty competent ITA CRX Si (and I think driven pretty competently as well) which over the course of a full lap is quicker than a comparably prepped EF Civic Si. I am not saying its an enormous differential but then again, top ITA cars at most tracks are only 1.5ish seconds off equally prepped ITS cars barring the top two or three 325s in our region (from my experience).

 

i plan i running it in modified class, thanks alot youve made me feel alto better about getting a gsr . i just did'nt want to be really far behind my friends in thier efs . thanks for the help i am sure when i am older and i have more money i will build a ef but for now i well love a gsr.
thanks for all the help

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFMAN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just did'nt want to be really far behind my friends in thier efs </TD></TR></TABLE>
then dont feel bad when you cant keep up with the EF's at autocross events....