Which would you guys prefer gives the best bang for the bucks. Time is not an object, just quality. Now, I would like to get a h22a and fully build the hell out of it. But I dont want to put to much money into this accord.

I could simply buy a h22a, ecu and transmission for like 2,000 bucks. Or I could spend that 2,000 bucks on building my f22 vtec. I dont want to go turbo, I want all n/a. Has anyone been able to build an f22 to overpower stock H and B series motors?

Ive also figured to get a h23, from the junk yard they come pretty cheap. DOHC 160 hp , or stick with my 145 hp SOHC Vtec.

 

If you want to stay N/A you want the H-series; or H23/VTEC if it will be fully built, assuming that it's a logical setup (I'm not a H-series guy).

 

h22a just the way it is, is great!

 

If you want NA id recommend H22A. You gotta love a high revving vtec especially if your goin NA.

 

Cool, F22 not worth the trouble, lol. H22a only way to go. I wonder how much more I can get out of her with a 1,000 bucks worth of Spoon and Mugen parts

 

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Good luck findin Mugen and SPoon parts for that F22 Motor. I dont think they have many parts for it.

 

G22 like me

 

oh no no, I mean mugen and spoon parts for the H22, lol. I know the F22 is worthless, but I was curious if anyone has ever got one to crank out a 14.xxx 1/4 non turbo. Most likely more trouble than its worth.

But fully built H22.......man wouldnt that pwn all others. No turbo for others to hear, they wouldnt even expect an ex accord to have that much n/a power sleeping under the hood. Then again, they will probably think you have a V6 or something like that.

 

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But fully built H22.......man wouldnt that pwn all others. No turbo for others to hear, they wouldnt even expect an ex accord to have that much n/a power sleeping under the hood. Then again, they will probably think you have a V6 or something like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ummm, no.. the f22 block is actually a stronger block then the h22 block due to its iron sleeves. the h22 mearly has a bigger bore, shorter stroke, and a higher reving and better flowing head.. the blocks are cast identacle. You could do a build like me and build an f22a block, f20b crank and rods, oversized pistons to make up for the f22's larger bore, and an h22 head.

 

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But fully built H22.......man wouldnt that pwn all others. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Uh, no....a 14 second car is not that fast. Just about any turbo gsr or si would take you.

And you'll get like 1 'spoon and mugen' part for $1K. They are ridiculously overpriced and don't offer best bang for your buck

 

hey jdm monopolyman, that build sounds pretty nice. About how much horses is that thing kicking? How much did all the extra parts cost ya?

 

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Uh, no....a 14 second car is not that fast. Just about any turbo gsr or si would take you.

And you'll get like 1 'spoon and mugen' part for $1K. They are ridiculously overpriced and don't offer best bang for your buck </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

am i h23a FAN!

 

broke *** college student going with a rod and piston f22 + boost setup.

not fully built but stock sleeves should be good for 300 or so hp.

 

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The build is not complete yet but I did a dyno simulation on my computer with all my specs and its going to be about 284 flywheel hp at 7000rpm but I will be makeing good numbers along the whole powerband that i'm going for (4000-8500). A basic build would run you about 3000, mine is running about 6000 because I'm haveing alot of head and block work done. heres the predicted numbers

 

6g's, whooh. Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck with the completion of that bad boy. I have no experience rebuilding engines, but I love getting myself into messes that I cant turn back from. Taking apart my f22 and simply cleaning it would be a great start for me. Maybe then I can look into a simular hybrid build for myself.

 

my f24 does 321whp.

 

In 1999-2000 I had a N/A 1995 Accord Sedan that ran mid to high 14s with a F22B1. Stock head, 11:1 compression Arias pistons and Crower Rods, H22 Tranny. I spent 1600 for the block (was gonna go Nitrous but got rid of the car before I had the chance, only ran it N/A), 600 for the tranny, bolt-on money too, 200 for some decent tires, car was stripped pretty good.

It was cool having a sleeper Accord back then. For the money I spend back then compared to now, you could have atleast a 13 second N/A Accord if you went H22. Only go F22 if you want to stay sleeper mode and wanna spend a little bit of money on some custom ****.

 

my H22a makes 604whp and 482 torque in my 93 4 door accord ex (stock body). But it sure wasn't cheap, even doing a lot of the work myself.

 

haha i wouldn't expect a drag accord to be cheap lol.

 

Spend the $2200 for the H22 swap, make sure to get everything done right the first time. I know a decent amount of people who have to spend MORE money for new sensors and things of that nature. Also, you realize you'll need to convert your JDM engine, if you choose to import the engine, to USDM specifications since the emisson regulations in Japan are more lenient than over here. If you want your car to be in the 14's with an H22 then get pistons, new rods, flywheel, stage 1 or two clutch, make sure you get the LSD with the swap, I/H/E, with some nice sticky tires and you shouldn't have a problem getting in the mid to low 14's with that set-up, as long as your car's manual. It would also help if you had a coupe which shaves off like 100lbs. or so. Good luck

 

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Give it a try, maybe while your f22's apart you'll want to through some pistons in, or even an h22 head on

 

Build an H22. Check out the accord with the built H22 running 12s. This guy goes buy the name Point 6. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=1296