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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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driving around yesterday, and hit some road trash, what would you do?

how it looked:

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i'm a little pissed, its only 2 weeks new
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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That sucks... and only 2weeks new.
But what worries me more is did it cause anything else to bend?
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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i really hope not, i haveny had time to really investagate it yet
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Certainly fixable, but probably too low to be practical in city driving (apparently).
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Certainly fixable, but probably too low to be practical in city driving (apparently).</TD></TR></TABLE>

but but... It's right between the wheels. And it's not much lower than his exhaust.

What the hell kind of road debris was that, to cause that damage?
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Why would you bother fixing it?

After getting damaged so severely this quickly, that should indicate to you that this bar will not work on your particular vehicle for your particular uses.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That sucks... and only 2weeks new.
</TD></TR></TABLE>rofl , i sense a bit of sarcasm here.. "2 weeks new"


but back to to this guys horrible loss..
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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You might be able to fix it by welding a piece of angled aluminum on each side. Noticed you are from Flagstaff. Asome twisties through Oak Creek Canyon I would love to take my ITR on that stretch.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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it was a rock. (i think)

these are just made of aluminum, right?

so it might be cheaper to replace, or get a bigger front sway bar?

opinons welcome

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cod Sac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might be able to fix it by welding a piece of angled aluminum on each side. Noticed you are from Flagstaff. Asome twisties through Oak Creek Canyon I would love to take my ITR on that stretch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, and snowbowl road. I should have some video of the car in those areas soon.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hamB18C5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it was a rock. (i think)</TD></TR></TABLE>

jOO think? As in you didn't see and don't know what you hit? That had to be a hell of a whallop.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hamB18C5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so it might be cheaper to replace, or get a bigger front sway bar?

opinons welcome </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, what bar is this again? Is it really an Antisway bar or is it some Traction bar?

If it's an Antisway bar, I'd stick with stock. If it's a traction bar, I'd ditch it and worry more about concentrating on what's in front of you in the future.

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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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It looks like it's hollow from the way it is twisted. If so you may be able to bend it straight and cut it were the crease was. Then sleeve the inside with some IMC or rigid pipe, and drill some holes to put some bolts through.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: benen bar got owned, think its fixable? (Cod Sac)

I was going to a company party, and I was looking at which parking lot people where in. Of course, the second I look away, I nail something.

Its a lower tie bar. Similar to the one in the rear, it connects the 2 front lower control arms.

I have a good friend that can weld anything, I am hoping he can fix it, or make me something new.

I guess JB weld isn't a good idea with this one.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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sry to hear about that...must suk...and i understand too! just installed new game today doesnt work !%@^&!*@ so annoyed...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Any good welders out there?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cod Sac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like it's hollow from the way it is twisted. If so you may be able to bend it straight and cut it were the crease was. Then sleeve the inside with some IMC or rigid pipe, and drill some holes to put some bolts through. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I have a butt load of experience with t-6 and yes that is hollow. The only way to repair that is remove it and cut away the bent section and weld in a new piece. If you try to bend it back it will either kink or brake either way it will be useless. They use aluminum because of its tensile strength which it long longer has any right now.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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-Remove bar
-Bend bar back into shape
-Sell that piece of ****
-Replace OEM bar
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cod Sac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might be able to fix it by welding a piece of angled aluminum on each side. Noticed you are from Flagstaff. Asome twisties through Oak Creek Canyon I would love to take my ITR on that stretch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You want twisties.... drive from Globe, Arizona over the pass to Phoenix...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rene M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I have a butt load of experience with t-6 and yes that is hollow. They use aluminum because of its tensile strength which it long longer has any right now. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Tensile strength is a term used for the amount of force used to pull an object apart in a linear fashion....say a piece of rope. Rope is measured by it's tensile strength. Where as when a hollow (or solid pipe) is bent toward it's ends or in the middle is measured by a completely different term. Also, the tendency to bend toward the ends of a hollow/solid pipe are greater than it's tendency to bend directly in the middle of each end.


Modified by Haleiwa-Brando at 12:37 PM 6/26/2005
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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I'm guessing it's probably just as functional with it bent like that.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MinorityGreg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rofl , i sense a bit of sarcasm here.. "2 weeks new" </TD></TR></TABLE>

Owned by reading.... No sarcasm. Just quoting the gentleman.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hamB18C5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm a little pissed, its only 2 weeks new </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Opie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-Replace OEM bar</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't believe there is an "OEM bar" or any other "oem" piece linking those two locations in the front underbody.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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i def would not "repair" that, its like a the frame of a car, once its ruined, its ruined! id replace it, but jus my opinion!
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Were you experiencing chassis flex in the front? That bar definately does not look like something that would survive daily driving.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Seeing as how most R's have about 5" of ground clearance - that was a big f'n rock

take that useless piece of metal off and sell it
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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I'm putting an APC sticker on it and putting it on E-bay. LOL.

Probably just gonna hang it on the wall and then replace it.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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now thats what i call ownage
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