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Engine won't start until the check engine light goes off.

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Sometimes when we try to start the car it won't start. The check engine light will be on. You have to wait until the check engine light goes off. You can turn the key and it will turn over like its going to start, but it will never start. not until the check engine light goes off.

Anybody know what this might be from?..... I don't know why it does that. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Just a shot in the dark but, while your ECU is testing the CEL, the fuel pump is also priming, maybe your pump is on the way out and takes longer to get pressure built up, this is too simple and is probly not the fix.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Have you checked your mian relay for cracked solder joints?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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I had the same problem. Check your fuel pump.
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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i got the same issue but my l cel light don't turn off any advise
fuel pump don't prime or anything if the light is on
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Default Re: Engine won't start until the check engine light goes off.

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i got the same issue but my l cel light don't turn off any advise
fuel pump don't prime or anything if the light is on
Bad capacitors and/or damaged traces from bad capacitors in the ECU. Pull out the ECU and take the cover off both sides. See if any of the electrolytic capacitors are swollen or have leaked. If the board is not damaged, you can replace the capacitors and it may be OK. If the board is damaged, I'd look for a new ECU.
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaX
Bad capacitors and/or damaged traces from bad capacitors in the ECU. Pull out the ECU and take the cover off both sides. See if any of the electrolytic capacitors are swollen or have leaked. If the board is not damaged, you can replace the capacitors and it may be OK. If the board is damaged, I'd look for a new ECU.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 06:32 AM
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I put a reman ecu in and still no change
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 07:20 AM
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I put a reman ecu in and still no change
Does the fuel pump prime when you turn the key to position 2? You'll hear the main relay (located under the driver dash, below the fuse panel) click once when you turn the key to position 1, then it should click again and prime the fuel pump on position 2. If your fuel pump is not priming, main relay could be the problem as well. I JUST had this exact issue and resolved it with an ECU. That was the problem, it was providing ground only occasionally. Sometimes I'd wait a minute, sometimes I'd wait an hour before it kicked.
Where did you get this remanufactured ECU?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 07:42 AM
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it will only click once while in the run position I did replace the relay tying two different ones I did get the car to start on two different days but the let it sit for a couple of hrs and bock to no start


I got the ecu from orileys auto parts so I'm gonna have them warranty the ecm and see what happens


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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 07:43 AM
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If you're not hearing the main relay clicks, give the lower dashboard near where the main relay is a whack or two. This often works as a temporary fix / theft deterrent.
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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it will only click once while in the run position I did replace the relay tying two different ones I did get the car to start on two different days but the let it sit for a couple of hrs and bock to no start


I got the ecu from orileys auto parts so I'm gonna have them warranty the ecm and see what happens
Is the main ground on the thermostat housing clean and tight?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 08:01 AM
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yes I replaced all ground wires and cleaned the ground at the thermostat and checked for high resistance no issue found I have 3 different main relays that I've been swapping out
all of the only click once I'm getting power to all wire except the yel/grn wire to engage the fuel pump I can jump it over and it will work but the inj are not getting ground
signal from ecu to fire
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 08:06 AM
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yes I replaced all ground wires and cleaned the ground at the thermostat and checked for high resistance no issue found I have 3 different main relays that I've been swapping out
all of the only click once I'm getting power to all wire except the yel/grn wire to engage the fuel pump I can jump it over and it will work but the inj are not getting ground
signal from ecu to fire
All ECU and PGMFI fuses good?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 08:07 AM
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yes I even replaced them just to make sure
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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yes I even replaced them just to make sure
You're gonna have a long battle ahead of you here. There's a VERY SLIM chance you got a dud ECU, but possible. This is exactly like what I recently went through. So if oreillys exchanges for another and you still have this problem, you'll need to check all your wiring between your main relay and ECU plugs.
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Old Sep 20, 2019 | 06:34 AM
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ok so got it fixed the reman ecu I got was bad they warrantied it out I put the new one in and it fired right up thanks for you info
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Old Sep 20, 2019 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scoldiron
ok so got it fixed the reman ecu I got was bad they warrantied it out I put the new one in and it fired right up thanks for you info
Woohoo!!
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