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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Default Where to put brakeline when installing Koni Yellow?

I have the oem strut bracket off my oem shock. Would that work? or do i have Rig/ZipTie it somewhere. If i do can you guys show me pictures of where you guys ziptied your brakeline to. Thanks.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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anyone?
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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If you have the circular bracket off the OEM shocks, then just slide it up on the bottom of the front shocks just like they were on the stock shocks and use them as designed. There is a sketch of it in the Koni isntructions. If you don't want to use them, put a zip tie through the bolt bhole in the bracket tab on the brake line and then just zip it around the shock body a few inches above the top of the lower mounting wishbone.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:57 AM
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as Lee said, use the stock bracket... just bang it off of the stock shock and you'll be alright.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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i just recieved the koni's. As you guys said take of the bracket from the oem shock. But i recieved them like this. So do i still need to stock Oem brake bracket?


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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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nope
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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can anyone else back this up? Also i was wondering does the Spring cup sit on the circlip like this or am i missing a part? I know in the pic the cup is upside down but i want to show you guys the circlip. I think i am missing the ring that goes around the circlip. is that correct?



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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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help please.!
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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If I remember right you only need that on the fronts.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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look at the instructions that came with the struts. I just did this install a few weeks ago and if you look at the pictures in the instructions, they show 2 types of seats. one needs the ring, the other does not. deteremine which of the 2 you have. I guess it depends on when the struts were manufactured.

as far as the brake line holder, it looks like yours will not need the ring you took off your old struts. like I said, I did mine a few weeks ago and the struts I got did not have those brackets yours has welded to them... must be something new they are doing... lucky you.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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i aws told that the newer version struts did not use the perch rings. The perch it self has a groove on the inside that fits right onto the circlip. Can anyone confirm this? Ill get pics up tomarrow with the groove in the perch.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiB16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i aws told that the newer version struts did not use the perch rings. The perch it self has a groove on the inside that fits right onto the circlip. Can anyone confirm this? Ill get pics up tomarrow with the groove in the perch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is what I have heard,too, but you have no idea if you have the newer or older struts. have you looked at the instructions?? it was quite clear what they were showing as to what needs to be done with each of the 2 types of perches.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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acually the instructions were kind of weird, it did not showed me anything i needed to know. i looked at that thing 100 times.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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1) If the shock comes with the brake line brackets, you do not reuse the stock ring. The shocks that have and "L" or "R" in the part number are Lefts and Rights becasue the inclusion of the brake line bracket makes them that way. Shocks that are not specifically sided like that can be used on either side and thus need to have the OE bracket used. The bracket are supplied on the 92-96 Prelude Sport shocks, the 92-97 Accord fronts and the 03-05 Accord/TL/TSX are all lefts and rights becasue they come with the bracket. The Prelude SP3 version that we make for Neuspeed do not come with the brackets so you would reuse them from the OE. The 97+ Prelude mounts the brake like not to the shock but to the upright so that is not and issue.

In short, if your car uses left and right side shocks then use the provided bracket. If not, use the OE bracket. Very simple.

2) Not all spring perches use lower rings, simply look at the underneath side of the perch and you will see that there is a groove on the bottom side to capture and hold the circlip. Until about five years ago, no front shocks had any rings at all and they all had bottom grooves. The spring ID on the 92-00 Civic/94-01 Integra is quite small leaving little room for the groove in the underside of the perch so Koni engineering decided to include a ring with the groove included. The other Civic, CRX, Accord, Prelude, and other car brand perches typically have a wider spring tail and spring perch so there is plenty of metal and room to have the groove in the perch. Look at the bottom side of your perch and you will see the groove. When the Prelude perch is installed just like the factory perch sits on the factory shock, the groove sits on and captures the circlip. No ring required.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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I belive you have your spring perch on upside down in the picture also.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiB16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can anyone else back this up? Also i was wondering does the Spring cup sit on the circlip like this or am i missing a part? I know in the pic the cup is upside down but i want to show you guys the circlip. I think i am missing the ring that goes around the circlip. is that correct?

Modified by SiB16a at 12:10 PM 7/19/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

and by the way thanks so much lee!
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