Modified by realis9 at 11:56 AM 6/2/2006

 

A real EMS never hurts, but with just I/H/E I don't think you have enough mods to really justify the cost. I'd wait until you have some cams, gears, bigger injectors, etc then get the EMS and install it all at the same time.

 

I would get whatever the local tuner is most capable of using. I personally love the Neptune system and have Tony Palo within a 30 min drive. If the tuners around there specialize in Hondata, go for it.

 

well here in south florida there is south florida performance that tunes the hondata s200 and we also have cartek tuner who tunes the everything but hondata. So which one would make the most horsepower for me. Just between the hondata s200 or the apexi vafc with simple bolt ons. I'm hoping to get 186 whp.

 

S200 > VAFC

 

cool thank you. i just wanted to know which one makes more power.

 

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why not shoot for having it tuned to make the most power under the curve. That doesn't always mean a high peak number and it's not like 186whp is impressive.

Screw peak numbers, get it tuned so it has great mid range, unless you drive at 8000rpm all day long.

 

you'll be .2 second faster. you'll feel the differnce yet not much to show for it. thats regardless if hondata, stock ecu or power fc or whatever.. you don't really get much out of tuning unless you have enough mods.

 

i go with the vafc for now i had a type r in my hatch back with just aem cold air intake, jdm itr header & 2.5 exhaust after tunned got a 185hp

 

So basically with just simple bolt ons it doesn't really matter which one i go with. Right now with my chip p28 with vtec set at 5000 rpm the car doesn't feel has strong. Maybe i need to stop comparing it to my all motor crx. I expected too much from my stock itr motor. O.k last chance Apexi vafc ( version 1 or 2 which one is better?) or hondata s200 for mid to high end range and beating those car i talk about. I might have to race my sister's stock 05 6mt g35 with my brother driving it. Morso is july 15 and i want to run some impressive times. Keep the info coming please.

 

i promise with all your help i will have the Dyno numbers the timeslip and maybe some vids by july 15

 

s200 has much more in terms of capabilites and room to grow with mods.

neptune would be my choice, were i in your shoes and there was someone nearby to tune it.....

 

is neptune just a chip that someone can burn? One of the reasons i was also looking for both devices for tuning is because i didn't want to run too rich or too lean, Right now i have no idea is i'm running rich or lean.

 

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Agreed! I almost got the Vafc but my tuner, as well as others, convinced me otherwise. I ended up buying a friends s200 used for less than the Vafc new.

Yesterday we (I use that term loosely) spent almost five hours tuning her up then the p28 fried. Argh!! No worries, tomorrow it should be done.

Unfortunately, the dyno is down so I couldn't get a baseline before Hondata. However, in a week or two I'll make the trip for some fine tuning and I'll be sure to post up the graph.

I only have bolt-ons and all my internals are stock.

&lt;----who likes to babble on........

 

we must run i live in weston FL i got teh same thing eghatch with ITR I/h/e and plann on getting toda cams flywheel, clutch and S200 the s2000 is good u will see some good power also think about an intake mani.

 

Cool i live in pembroke pines, So if you get the s200 you have to make SFP tune it for you. I think they are the only ones who tune hondata. Hey morso is july 15 so if you want to roll.

 

if i corretly remmber CarTEk tunes hondata as well

 

what brands do you have?
me
aem CAi, mugen header, gsr exhaust (son 2.5 from header back my dyno was 177hp @8200 125 TQ

and i rev up to 9200

 

i called cartek last week they do not tune hondata. They said hondata is crap compare to greddy e-manage. I have aem CAI jdm 4-1 type r header apexi n1 exhaust.

 

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I actually have a new (stilll in sealed bags) s100 hondata with boost for sale, if interested. /hijack

 

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If they told you that, then it is apparent they don't know wtf they're talking about.....