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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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I am having the hardest time lifting the front tire of my 05' 750 Gsx-r. Does anyone on the board have any recommendations or personal experience with the 05' 750. I've tried clutching it at about 7k rpm and I've even tried to hard throttle it. I would think that 750cc would be more than enough power to lift this thing. What am I doing wrong? When i had my 03 R6, i did the same thing, and it came up soo much easier. Can someone please give me advice to wheelie this machine. I was thinking that maybe the bike was designed to really keep the bike on the ground, but who knows...

P.S. Please don't flame because you guys think im a noobie or a squid...
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eternity0114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
P.S. Please don't flame because you guys think im a noobie or a squid...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well... when would we flame you then?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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if you buy NOS you can throttle it up.


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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Its all you, you should have absolutely no problem getting the front up. Sit back a little bit further. You're probably not releasing the clutch fast enough. If you really want to power wheelie it, go WOT for a second, close the throttle so the forks compress then twist the throttle again. Usually power wheelies are kinda dangerous for noobies since the front tends to come up slow then super fast. I like clutching. Anyhow, go practice somewhere safe with someone around to help you out.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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I've never done a wheelie and don't plan to learn, it just plain scares me, but what is or how do you "clutch" it up?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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you should be able to pop the front up by just throttling it. Make sure you grip the tank with your knees

btw - if you cant power it up with a '05 750....you suck
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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I lifted my 2000 600 f4 a couple of times by switching from first to second, and just last week I tried a wheelie by "clutching" it and the front came up, I had it going for about 2-3 seconds. The wheelie wasn't high but it was a wheelie dagnabit . I haven't been able to do it since .
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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get a dirt bike and practice.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big pete &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

btw - if you cant power it up with a '05 750....you suck</TD></TR></TABLE>
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start out goin around 20-25mph, let go the throttle completely, then grab it again. if that dont work, go a little faster until u get it right. its probably because its a new bike and u dont want to loop it, thats how i felt when i first got my bike out the dealership.

and try adjusting ur throttle/freeplay also,
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sakums20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let go the throttle completely, then grab it again.</TD></TR></TABLE>


how about not letting go of the throttle...
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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man all i can say is slip the clutch like a few have mentioned above. In my experience its the safest way. And go somewhere safe that cant be stressed enough.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Clutching is just like peeling out in a car. Give it some throttle and drop the clutch and inside of peeling on out your bike it just goes up. Definately not something to just practice alone because you can loop it really easy. I know some very fast people in the twisties that still cant wheelie. Its just not for everyone, but being able to control your bike in every aspect is a good thing imho.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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thanks guys for all the suggestions and help. I've been trying to pop the clutch, but for some reason, it just doesn't want to come up. I ride at about 20 mph in first gear, and rev it up to about 7k, then pop it up....but no good
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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does anyone on the board have a 05 gsxr that have had or having the same problem?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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I'm new and I can't wheelie yet, atleast high enough. All I know is that people are gonna say, practice, practice, practice.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eternity0114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks guys for all the suggestions and help. I've been trying to pop the clutch, but for some reason, it just doesn't want to come up. I ride at about 20 mph in first gear, and rev it up to about 7k, then pop it up....but no good</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think that's high enough. Try 10k rpms. Also, sit back. And don't "pop" the clutch, just give it a quick release. But don't let off the throttle at all. WOT all the way. But most importantly, practice practice practice.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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I ride an 05 R6, and i weigh about 175, 5'11'' height. WOT in first at about 11-12k rpms my R6 creeps probably 3 - 5 inches, with me laying damn near all the way on my tank. Same with second gear, and third if i lean back alittle bit.

Heres what i do for wheelies though.

1st gear, 20 mph steady. let off throttle, pull in clutch with one finger, rev to 10-11k rpms, drop clutch, and bang, soooo smoothly walks up to balance point. I can tell now when i go to drop the clutch if i over or under rev'd, and have always been able to either let off or grab rear brake before it gets scary.

IMPORTANT :::::::::::::::::

When i was learning, still kinda am, to wheelie, i always made a point to keep my foot on the rear brake, that will always save you if you think fast enough or remember.

I always wear my helmet/gear too....its a must.

Good luck
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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The '05 750 has more than enough power to lift the front without rolling off and on the throttle in first gear
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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go 45 in 2nd gear standing on the pegs, then let off the gas and bounce and give it gas at the same time...you should be able to ride it to the end of the RPM's....just try it a lil bit at a time to see how it feels...thats how i learned...and that was on a 600
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Eternity,you're getting a wackload of terrible advice...You DON"T EVER dump the clutch! bad idea!.When you're cruising around 6-7K RPM's in second gear,simply RUB the clutch (1 or 2 fingers..All of them is not a safe option).While steadily rolling at 6-7K pull the clutch in just a tad and while you're letting it out you should give it a quick blip of the throttle (this should all be done smooth and with good timing.You cannot take too long to complete this whole method or it will not come up).That'll get her up there.After you get confident with just bringing it up in the air,you can then work on controlling the throttle to keep her up there...PS if you are still having problems with that method (ie; rear tire spinning),you're using too much clutch and not enough gas.Try and use as little clutch as possible and with lot's of gas she'll work nicely.Be safe and wear your gear.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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How do you get tire spin from NOT ENOUGH THROTTLE, and TOO MUCH CLUTCH.
?????

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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I've spent a lot of time on the 02' 750 and i can say that you should have NO TROUBLE AT ALL pulling it up in 1st or 2nd. i would suggest that noobs don't try 20mph wheelies. remember that the faster your wheels are moving the more of a gyroscopic affect they will have resulting in helping you keep balance. i cant remember how how fast the bike will go in 1st gear but try this. wail in 1st gear, have the engine up to about 7K im sure thats a faster then 20 and wail at about 50% throttle and accelerating pull in the clutch for a split second. Don't pull it in all the way just enough to make a slip a little so the revs get up. i would practice where no one but ma by 1 friend is around. no one to show off to and someone to take you to the hospital just in case lol. remember wheelies are all about throttle control. keep your wrist down. if you have seen the videos where the bike comes up real fast and hits the break light thats because the right wrist was up so when the rider started accelerating, his body leaned back resulting in more throttle. remember its better to slam the front down and kill the fork seals then to slam the tail down and kill the bike. let me know how it goes.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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geez, this sucks...i've been practicing, but still no real results

what i've been doing is riding in first about about 20mph, sitting back in my seat a bit, then pull in the clutch, all the way....then rev up to about 10-11k (holding it steady at 10-11k)and just release the clutch real quick, but still, it barely wants to come up. The best i could do is about 6 inches off the ground. I keep reving it up to 10k and releasing the clutch. I could have sworn, it was soooo much easier on my 03 r6. I don't get it...
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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thanks for the suggestions though people!! please keep them coming
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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cash out while you're still ahead and give me a call.

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