all motor or turbo?
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all motor or turbo?
I am trying to decide wheater to go all motor or turbo? what motor is best to go all motor for a 1991 crx. what is best for turbo, same car? I was thinking going gsr all motor. what can I do besides ctr cams & skunk2 manifold?
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Re: all motor or turbo? (Mr.speaker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do whatever YOU want to do with your car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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research H-T for your answers
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research H-T for your answers
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Re: all motor or turbo? (riceisnicenv)
From my man, Driven -
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So, you got some cash and you're looking to upgrade your car. You ask, "What should i spend it on?"
Well, this is a guide to hopefully help you figure out what to spend it on.
First, if you don't OWN the car (ie. paying your parents for it, paying a loan off for it, bought it from a dealership), DON'T WORRY ABOUT MODS! Pay the car off... nothing is worse than owing money on a 13+ year old car.
Next, if your car has anything important broken on it (ie. windshield, door locks, bald tyres, brakes, etc), FIX IT! Make sure your car is running in tip-top shape before trying to make it faster/handle better.
One thing to always remember... There's ALWAYS someone with a faster car. With that said, spending money on "go-fast" goodies isn't always the best FIRST choice. Spend your money on better tyres, better shocks, springs, anti-sway bar, bushings, etc. Making your car DRIVE better will go further in the grin factor than the acceleration mods.
Once you got the suspension done, worry about engine mods. By the time you've gotten the suspension done... you SHOULD have money saved up for a swap. Sorry, but the D-series motors are great motors for the late 80s....however, aftermarket for it is dwindling. Would you want to spend $300 on a header for a D-series than realise, "hey, I want a B-series"... now you're out $300 on that header.
Engine mods are endless. There's rarely a person who says, "I can't do anything else to my engine." There's ALWAYS something they can improve on. That's why it's best to leave it last...as it'll be an endless money pit.
If you seriously need bling...clear corners and bumper lens are a good start. rear discs are another bling item as well that have a benefit for brake feel. racing buckets (get reclinable if you don't have a rollbar, fixed if you do) are another option for interior bling.
Mods that have very little (if any) performance gains, but will make the car feel better:
- Bigger brake booster ($5-$100)
- short shifter ($5-$90)
- rollbar w/ accompanying harness (there's chassis stiffening, but, it's hard to tell when you don't know what you're looking for) ($150-$500)
- strut tower braces ($20-$100)
- different shift **** ($5-$45)
- different pedal layovers ($5-$60)
- different steering wheel ($100-$400)
- air filter/intake tube ($20-$150)</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question:
What's the BEST engine for my Honda?
Answer:
125cc Honda dirt bike motor. It weighs under 50lbs, revs to 10000rpms, and makes 320hp/liter.
There, now that we solved the question that is constantly on everyone's mind, let's talk about pizza.
Seriously now, the best engine for your honda is WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD TO BUY!
If you have $1000, DOHC ZC.
If you have $2000, get a 1st gen b16a. It'll cost that much to get it in.
If you have $4000, get a GSR/B18C1.
If you have $5500, get a ITR/B18C5.
If you have $10K, and no use for your car for a month or two... get a K20.
Edited for the Whiners:
This is NOT a complete list, as there are mini-mes, LS-VTEC swaps, budget/poor man's ITRs, etc. Use the damn search button a bit more religiously.
What's the best engine for boost... the one that gets TUNED properly.
What's the best engine for drag racing... the one you spend the most money on making FAST.
What's the best engine for road racing... same thing.
What's the most reliable engine... the one you MAINTAIN religiously.
What's the cheapest engine... the one that's in your car.
There, hopefully when searched, this thread will pull up so people will stop making threads about stupid crap like "what's the difference between a GSR and a B18C5"...the oil caps. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So, you got some cash and you're looking to upgrade your car. You ask, "What should i spend it on?"
Well, this is a guide to hopefully help you figure out what to spend it on.
First, if you don't OWN the car (ie. paying your parents for it, paying a loan off for it, bought it from a dealership), DON'T WORRY ABOUT MODS! Pay the car off... nothing is worse than owing money on a 13+ year old car.
Next, if your car has anything important broken on it (ie. windshield, door locks, bald tyres, brakes, etc), FIX IT! Make sure your car is running in tip-top shape before trying to make it faster/handle better.
One thing to always remember... There's ALWAYS someone with a faster car. With that said, spending money on "go-fast" goodies isn't always the best FIRST choice. Spend your money on better tyres, better shocks, springs, anti-sway bar, bushings, etc. Making your car DRIVE better will go further in the grin factor than the acceleration mods.
Once you got the suspension done, worry about engine mods. By the time you've gotten the suspension done... you SHOULD have money saved up for a swap. Sorry, but the D-series motors are great motors for the late 80s....however, aftermarket for it is dwindling. Would you want to spend $300 on a header for a D-series than realise, "hey, I want a B-series"... now you're out $300 on that header.
Engine mods are endless. There's rarely a person who says, "I can't do anything else to my engine." There's ALWAYS something they can improve on. That's why it's best to leave it last...as it'll be an endless money pit.
If you seriously need bling...clear corners and bumper lens are a good start. rear discs are another bling item as well that have a benefit for brake feel. racing buckets (get reclinable if you don't have a rollbar, fixed if you do) are another option for interior bling.
Mods that have very little (if any) performance gains, but will make the car feel better:
- Bigger brake booster ($5-$100)
- short shifter ($5-$90)
- rollbar w/ accompanying harness (there's chassis stiffening, but, it's hard to tell when you don't know what you're looking for) ($150-$500)
- strut tower braces ($20-$100)
- different shift **** ($5-$45)
- different pedal layovers ($5-$60)
- different steering wheel ($100-$400)
- air filter/intake tube ($20-$150)</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question:
What's the BEST engine for my Honda?
Answer:
125cc Honda dirt bike motor. It weighs under 50lbs, revs to 10000rpms, and makes 320hp/liter.
There, now that we solved the question that is constantly on everyone's mind, let's talk about pizza.
Seriously now, the best engine for your honda is WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD TO BUY!
If you have $1000, DOHC ZC.
If you have $2000, get a 1st gen b16a. It'll cost that much to get it in.
If you have $4000, get a GSR/B18C1.
If you have $5500, get a ITR/B18C5.
If you have $10K, and no use for your car for a month or two... get a K20.
Edited for the Whiners:
This is NOT a complete list, as there are mini-mes, LS-VTEC swaps, budget/poor man's ITRs, etc. Use the damn search button a bit more religiously.
What's the best engine for boost... the one that gets TUNED properly.
What's the best engine for drag racing... the one you spend the most money on making FAST.
What's the best engine for road racing... same thing.
What's the most reliable engine... the one you MAINTAIN religiously.
What's the cheapest engine... the one that's in your car.
There, hopefully when searched, this thread will pull up so people will stop making threads about stupid crap like "what's the difference between a GSR and a B18C5"...the oil caps. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: all motor or turbo? (dr_latino999)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do whatever YOU want to do with your car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: all motor or turbo? (SiR_crx)
Try searching...
All depends on the amount of money that you want to spend. Turbo can give you more power, with less money and work, but it's all up to one's opinion.
Everything I say from now on is more my opinions than anything else:
For a true n/a motor, I say build from the block up. B20 block with whatever VTEC head. Camshafts, pistons, rods, valvesprings, intake manifolds, the list goes on and on. And of course there are ITBs
.
Whether you go turbo or all motor will ultimately come down to the money/time you have to spend, and the amount of patience you have with your car. Oh yeah, and also your wallet plays a big factor. But when does your wallet NOT play a factor in cars? lol.
All depends on the amount of money that you want to spend. Turbo can give you more power, with less money and work, but it's all up to one's opinion.
Everything I say from now on is more my opinions than anything else:
For a true n/a motor, I say build from the block up. B20 block with whatever VTEC head. Camshafts, pistons, rods, valvesprings, intake manifolds, the list goes on and on. And of course there are ITBs
.Whether you go turbo or all motor will ultimately come down to the money/time you have to spend, and the amount of patience you have with your car. Oh yeah, and also your wallet plays a big factor. But when does your wallet NOT play a factor in cars? lol.
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