Heya people... bought my ITR 2 weeks ago and it has an AEM intake that goes all the way down to the passenger rear well where its not even visible *dont know where the f00k it is..or how it was installed*

Im seriously worried about hydrolocking,.. iv just read horror stories.

Today it rained, and i drove home doin 15mph (night time) i live in a rural area alot of potholes... so it was a long drive home.. haha.

can anyone edumacate me on this, how to avoid something bad? thanks much appreciated.

ps- im stayn home when it rains frmo now on.. sucks when ya get caught in a rain storm tho

 

Gethefuckoutaheeah!

 

"Gethefuckoutaheeah!"

lay off the crack.

 

Welcome to H-T

I sold my AEM for fears like yours. Their are quite a few replacements. Comptech makes a cold air box that makes good power. J's racing and Mugen also make intakes that a shlode of people are running. You can also cut your AEM down so that the filter isn't so close to the ground.

Now GTFO

 

argh... **** i guess i just wnot drive in the rain for now.. damn storm caught me.

but yeah, i'd like to get another CAI then.. already spent to much damn $$ to spend another 2-3bills on a different one.. guess it'll hafta wait

 

Just cut a few inches off the CAI that you have now. BTW you honestly need to completely dip the filter in water for you to hydro lock. Driving in rain wont do it.

 

Oh... i was concerned about water splashing.. so it would practically have to be sunk in the water ? i guess thats more of a relief.

It'd be a shame takn it off, it sounds awesome especially when VTEC engages...

Anyway, thanks for the help Opie! j00 da man

PS- can a mod please take this goddamn trial thing off already? how long this **** last

 

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for you it lasts forevaR

 

Does it have a bypass valve? Supposably the bypass valve helps it not to suck up any water even if you dunk it in water.......

 

if you still hae your fender liner water cant even splash on it so i wouldnt worry about that........... only thing that you need to look out for is deep water that will submerge it then you will have problems

 

You really dont have anything to worry about, unless you plan to drive into any ponds or lakes in the near future. But if you are really worried about it, just hit the clutch when going through large puddles.

 

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Bypass valve also tends to make the AEM into a short ram of sorts.

This was my chief concern with the bypass valve, why would cold air go through the trouble of come from the long end of the intake, if there was a much easier way through some simple foam in the middle of the pipe, conventiently beside the hot hot engine .

I do not experience much flood conditions for me to really be "scared" into installing one.

Depending on how low your car is, I believe as long as you don't hammer the throttle through atleast standing 8-12 inches of water, I doubt hydrolock would be a very big risk. The cone must be pretty much completely submerged for you to suck in water instead of air (no, not at wot, if you are standing in a huge foot deep puddle and also at wot... )

Driving in the rain itself will not pose a risk of hydrolock, it is the water accumulation in deep puddles that is the danger, but even then if you let off the throttle completely and coast through mildly deep stuff that even partially submerges the cone, you'll still be okay... remember, when the TB is closed, you are only drawing in a minimal amount of air, so any non-submerged piece of the cone can still probably draw in this amount, WOT is another story.

Think McDonalds straw, as long as you don't put the straw into the drink completely, you still can't get your drink and suck in a mouthful of air, though if you suck really hard (i.e. WOT), you can sometimes get a few drops.

Also, the cone of the CAI is pretty much where your passenger side turn signal is, so a good half of your bumper must be submerged... a little common sense will usually be the best defense to hydrolock (flash flood areas not withstanding). If you cannot avoid submerging the cone, I guess I'd turn off the engine and see what could happen, though with that much water, the resistance of hitting it will pretty much bring your car to a complete stop, no matter how fast you are going or what intake you are running .

But really, if you are going to be in 3+ feet of standing water, I really doubt hydrolocking the engine will be the only thing at risk.

K&N has water "jackets" called "drychargers" that are designed for the filter element which can give you some additional protection against water entering your intake. However, again, with things like this, you are introducing less favorable intake flow, and serves to reduce/defeat the gains of a cold-air-intake.

I hope this helps.

(Cliff's Notes: the drycharger was originally designed for watercraft applications where K&N also offers performance filter elements for things like boats and seadoos.)

 

You ppl worry too much. I have the AEM in my S. It sits only inches off the ground, yes much lower than the ITR. I even cut slits into the front bumper for more air. There are simple rules you must follow. If you go through a puddle, put the clutch in. Once you pass it, go back in gear. Also, if its pouring hard, avoid WOT. This last one is odd though. I have tracked my car in the rain and it was coming down hard. I was WOT all the time and nothing happened. I think the only thing you really need to watch for is puddles. Now watch, just because I typed all this I will hydrolock within the next month *knocks on wood*

 

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On my last integra, I had an AEM CAI. I've driven through some hard rainy days, puddles(shallow), etc. No problems at all. Just make sure the splashguard is in place and do not go through puddles more than 6" deep. If you're that worried, go back to stock or cut it and make it an UTHSUNBHAI*.

*Under The Hood Sucking Up Nothing But Hot Air Intake

 

Either get a SRI(S=short)
or a bypass valve ($60us)

everything will be just fine with either of thoses two options. And o ya read the rule, 15 days for your trial to expire. We all had to do it, so just wait it out

 

4+ years in my caR and not one problem with it, And yes I have been thru many heavy down pours, puddles and snow drifts

if you think the water might be a bit too deep either go around or press the clutch in.

 

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or a bypass valve ($60us)

everything will be just fine with either of thoses two options. And o ya read the rule, 15 days for your trial to expire. We all had to do it, so just wait it out</TD></TR></TABLE>

bypass negates having a CAI, i see no point in a CAI if you're running the bypass

 

some ricer i know uses AEM V2 in his kaa

 

who would that be?

 

I have a J's racing duct on my car with an AEM CAI filter sitting right behind it. I've driven through rain storms before and at the Expo when it was raining with no fear. I've been in cars that HAVE hydro-locked in the rain which isn't a fun experience. The only reason the cars that I've been in hydro-locked is because the driver hit a DEEP puddle of water and completely submerged the filter while on the throttle at the same time. IF you're approaching an area with known puddles or know the water is going to be more than a 2-3 inches deep; pull over to a gas station and wait for it to clear, turn the car off/get off the throttle completely and coast past it, or take an alternative route.

 

one thing alot of people dont relise is that a small ammout of water is not bad for your engine, it can actually be good becasue it turns into steam and can clean your combustion chambers. Ever herd of water injection? Also rotary guys use that old trick of submerging a large vaccum line in a gallon of distiled water to free stuck apex seals and clean the rotars/housings. But sucking in alot of water will obiously hydro lock it (going thru a deep pudle)

 

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Good words

 

Thanks for all the input and insigh ont he subject guys :D especially DC2fanboy for writing that article! lol = )


Cheers

 

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Exactly, you have nothing to worry about, but buy a bypass valve if your really scared of hydrolock.

 

i had the 3 inch on my hb with an itr motor in it, kept fender lining on there helped a great deal and had the bypass valve on teh intake. never had a problem ran thru water and puddles still runs like a champ