today while i was driving my timing belt broke and it bent my valves so i need to get the head redone or buy a new one...i was thinkin of buyin a b16 or gsr head...anyone have any opinions??

 

LS/Vtec is more than just the head.

I say rebuild the head you have, put some nice cams in with a good valve train. Port and polish the head, match port the intake and TB and you will be fine.

 

well what are your plans with the car? does smog bother you? Do you have anyother modes of transportation? gotta let us know these things for informed opinions.

personally id go b20, then down you road put on a vattack head.

 

well i should be ok on the transportation tip...its just that i dunno...how much **** would i need to do an ls/vtech head...or i was thinkin bout a type r...i can get a whole b18 for like 400

 

If you have the time, and the money do get it done RIGHT... go for the lsvtec, but don't expect anything amazing out of it stock. It will, however, feel awesome compared to your ls.

 

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Bad news indeed.

 

build the LS!!!!!!

Can ya tell i drive an LS

Anyways the LS Vtec takes quite a bit of time and mooney to do it right. Search will be your best friend to do it right. You will need the head and everything attached to it(i am 99%sure you current header will be fine) the golden eagle oil kit. Either a Vtec controler or a Vtec ECU(am i correct on the ecu part?) Timing belt water pump, maybe the oil pump.....etc the list goes on and on. I looked into doing it for a while but now i am gonna run my LS till she blows then it is onto a full GSR motor

 

just buy another long block. heck pick up a b20 and transfer all of your existing stuff over to the b20.

 

Sorry to hear that. How many miles were on the car when the T-belt broke?

 

there was 131,xxx on it...the timing belt was brand new...it just ripped i dunno what could of happened...it wasnt my water pump i dunno what it was

 

after how many miles does a timing belt snap????

 

Maybe somethin got up in there??..who knows if you had 130 thou somethin, then the belt might have been stock t-belt.

 

90k is when they say to swap the belt out.

Was it an OEM or aftermarket belt?

 

same thing happend to me in my ls luckly i had an extra ls head which was off a blown block motor i say rebuild it doesnt cost that much money.. all machine shop work should be around 150-200

 

RenzoDaPlayboi, how did you confirm that your valves are bent?

 

I personally think the best idea would be to find another longblock (perferably a B20) and then use the spare B18 shortblock as a starting point for an LSV or turbo project.

 

so no signs of cracking on the belt previous to the break? did u just have it changed? you mentioned it was brand new? what do u mean?

 

yo i had just checked the belt like last week...this **** was so new looking...there was no wear or tear on it...then all of a sudden im coming off a stop sign and bang...my **** just shuts off while i was driving...i dunno what happened man...i am hearing it is hard to take off the head...and that i will have to do mad **** if i want to put a vtech head on...

 

If your on the cheap, go to your local auto parts store and buy a cheapy Haynes or Chiltons manual for like $12. It will give you a step by step on removing your head, then take it down to your local machine shop. Have them check the valves and replace any bent ones. While your head is off, take a look at the top of your pistons, make sure they look ok. Then pick up your head and reinstall. That easy man. If you had a few bucks, you could have them do a 3 angle valve job and install some aftermarket valvesprings. Then in the future if you want to upgrade your cams, you will be all set.

 

sounds like the timing belt was too tight

 

the **** sucks man...i want my baby back!

 

Or maybe you install it incorrectly.

Remember, never pry a belt into position with hard object, that will tear the belt apart and it won't last long.

 

I just did the LS/Vtec conversion cause the same thing happened to me....driving along minding my business when the belt snapped and bent my valves. I got everything done including ALL the parts for around 2500. I replaced/bought the following:

GSR head
water pump
timing belt
head rebuild kit (it was a used head and I didn't wanna take the chance)
Block guard
Vtec Dizzy
Z10 Vtec conversion kit
Throttle cable (that I had to mod anyway)
intake gasket
exhaust gasket
Short Ram intake
GSR intake
VAFC2
P28 (chipped)
OBD2a-OB1 conversion harness

I'm probably forgetting a couple things, but you get the idea. Do I like it....hell yeah. Would I have done it differently...probably would have also done the whole bottom end if I had to do it over again. It pulls a little harder and climbs a lot faster in the RPM's when VTEC hits. My gas mileage went down a lil bit (like 80 less per tank or so)

 

If you think you'll spend upwards of $2000 on an ls/vtec conversion, I'd say that's not money well spent. For less than that you could have a GSR long block from hmotorsonline and have a good solid motor to build upon without all the conversion complications and machine work that'll need to be done. Ls/vtec will never be as reliable as OEM Honda...but I guess it depends on how important longevity is to you. Just my $.02.

 

yeah but does it come with a block guard