Right now I have a stock exhaust with a micron slip-on. I'm thinking about getting the Yoshimura RS3 Oval exhaust system



My question is, when going with a full exhaust system, is everything going to run fine with the stock ECU settings? I work a lot with tuning honda engines but I don't know how finicky motorcyle engines are when it comes to upgrades as this.

This is going on an '01 gsxr 600.

 

It will run, just not as good as it can. Get a Power Commander and a map.

EDIT: I type like a tard when I am tired.


Modified by 2.2 at 12:40 AM 6/9/2005

 

Your bike will run fine; you just won't be pulling the maximum potential power out of it. Personally; I think your average bike is plenty fast for 99% of us but it's usually a looks thing I guess...Power Commander is like an AFC...Factory Pro is another alternative.

 

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You are right. I feel like such a ricer admitting to that.

If it is not going to run to full potential, there is no reason spending $800+ to have the bike perform on a lower level than it currently does. I'll wait until I can do it right the first time... now I just need to find a local shop that has a motorcycle dyno.

 

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Bah, whatever dude. I had a full system on my bike...

It's all in good fun.

 

my friend just put the yosh race pipe/header on his 05 gsxr600, and it runs fine right now. The ecu will learn on it. But you could always upgrade w/ the yosh box too.

sounds mean as fuckkkkkkkkk, this is the one my friend has.

 

I have a full Yoshi RS3 and to tell you the truth, I couldn't tell the fooking difference in power. But it sounds good . I want a Power Commander but there's no maps for my Yoshi on a R6 and from performance gain/dollar ratio including a dyno session, it can wait. I'm no speed demon and I'm surely not out there racing against a clock.

I'm sure a couple track days w/make me faster than any bolt on goodies on a already capable bike.

 

I cant find a half yoshimura rs3 exhaust for the 01 gsxr 600... do they only have bolt ons? I'm trying to go all black accents on my bike... so I don't know if I want to get a slip on part that's stainless or stay with the flat black stock pipe with the CF can.

 

As far as I know they only have bolt ons and full systems, my guess would be that suzuki designed the piping on the header so that a half system couldnt be made for it, but thats just a guess as to why

 

akrapovic all the way you deffently need power comander or ull have exsteamly lean and rich spots all over plus you will get better gas milage find a dynojet tuneing center near you and only get the pc111usb

 

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Was curious how much is average dyno-tuning (mapping) at a local shop? Is it very similar like a automobile?

 

If you want the most for your money get an Akra system or something else like Arrow or Arata..Yosh systems are way overrated and don't put out as much power as most of the other systems.Nice bike BTW.

 

arenta arata systems like 1400 bucks?

 

It should run just fine. It'll have more horses than stock. When they say it won't run to full potential they mean u won't get the most out of it if u don't rejet the carbs (if u have carbs), put in K&N air filter, use a power commander and tune it. All these components complement each other. Full system will make it breathe better and can make more power, K&N will give more throttle response, rejet to get more gas with more air that you'll be getting, PCmmndr will top all this off and give u more rpms.

 

I read in a magazine a couple of years ago where they tested air filters. though the K&N and other aftermarkets did filter beter the stock filter flowed more air and made more power on the dyno (a couple of years ago)

 

Ooooo, K&N has your number. I wonder what they and the other companies would have to say about this. Was that test in a magazine that I can get?

 

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My bad I should have told u that my mechanic said that MY bike would run ok without having to rejet, I already had the V&H power Pak at the time. He knows the 900RR well. Can't say that about others, the Akrapovic pipe is ex$pen$ive. I like the way they sound, my favorite sounding exhaust is a Muzzy pipe on a Kawasaki, it's the ****!!

 

[QUOTE]It should run just fine. It'll have more horses than stock. When they say it won't run to full potential they mean u won't get the most out of it if u don't rejet the carbs (if u have carbs), put in K&N air filter, use a power commander and tune it. All these components complement each other. Full system will make it breathe better and can make more power, K&N will give more throttle response, rejet to get more gas with more air that you'll be getting, PCmmndr will top all this off and give u more rpms.[QUOTE]


What gives you the idea that if he's carbureted,he has an ECU that will allow for a Power Commander.That would be like saying you can put an AFC on a lawnmower..LOL..If you're carbureted,you use jets to adjust your A/F ratio..If you're Fuel Injected,you use a PC to adjust your fuel curve/settings.

PS.As far as older,carbureted bikes go,a K&N filter can help..These days though with the FI bikes,they're built to maximum operating potential using stock components (ie;exhaust),and the stock air filters flow just as good,if not better than the K&N/BMC filters...K&N is just all hype these days..How come no one even mentioned BMC? Because K&N is just a well-known name.

 

I was just giving him/others an idea of what these things do.

We say K&N because they're well known.

 

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What gives you the idea that if he's carbureted,he has an ECU that will allow for a Power Commander.That would be like saying you can put an AFC on a lawnmower..LOL..If you're carbureted,you use jets to adjust your A/F ratio..If you're Fuel Injected,you use a PC to adjust your fuel curve/settings.

PS.As far as older,carbureted bikes go,a K&N filter can help..These days though with the FI bikes,they're built to maximum operating potential using stock components (ie;exhaust),and the stock air filters flow just as good,if not better than the K&N/BMC filters...K&N is just all hype these days..How come no one even mentioned BMC? Because K&N is just a well-known name.
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because dummy... he mentions an ECU

 

I don't claim to know it all or even know a lot. If I had a 04/05 bike I probably wouldn't do too much to it...nah I'm lyin'. I'd PC it, go 2 up rear and maybe 1 down front, lower 2 or 3 inches first, then maybe I'd stretch it.

From what I hear nowadays the factories are getting a lot out of these engines if not the most. There's not much more that u can do to them as opposed to the older bikes, but that's what makes em fun u can do more if u like.

 

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