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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Default Just got a 2000 civic si!!! NEED OPINIONS

I just bought a 2000 civic si, and now i need ht peoples opinions on suspension....I wanna drop it anywhere btw 2-3 inches...i have $800 to spend...im going to be driving this car at least every other day for at lease 2-3 hours ...i want something smooth..not too bouncy...not too firm. Alson what do you guys think about
Eibach Springs w/
Tockico Blues
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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i would get ground control coilovers which are pretty good and under 3 bills and koni adjustable shocks, or kyb or tokico anything adjustable but not tokico blues those ***** suck i had em lasted couple months like two. Or you can always get the tein kit. peace.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Koni yellows, Ground controls.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Yeah Tokico blues are the worst shocks ever.

I'm running on Skunk2 Pro-Series full coilovers. There like $549.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Tokico Illumina R Full coilover suspension. (White)

*It has 5-ways adjustable shock damper, from Firm to Stiff(track-street)
*Height adjustable, lower down or up 3" inches

I got one on my hatch and people alway complement me, how well the ride was.
Turn the dial and ready for street cruising or track on the stiffer seting.

Cost about $725 shipped
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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omni street setup is nice TOKICO BLUES SUX JAJI
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Koni yellows, Ground controls.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nice daily driving setup
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah Tokico blues are the worst shocks ever.

I'm running on Skunk2 Pro-Series full coilovers. There like $549.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stocks are worse. But yeah I'd get Koni yellows and Ground control coilovers.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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omni street setup is nice x2

or D2 with your own spring rates...

don't bother with shocks and springs/coilovers...
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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koni yellows and tein s-tech!!!
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Just got a 2000 civic si!!! NEED OPINIONS (hondamonkey)

If you want a 2-3" drop that's smooth, look into some type of progressive-rated spring. I'd suggest Sprints, which are on sale through Import Parts. I believe for your EM1 they'll give you a 2.5" drop, but check on that. They're progressive rated, which will yield a compliant ride.

I used them on my EJ8 with Koni Yellows (stock perch setting), and I loved the setup. Had it for 5 years without any sagging/rusting/whatever problems. Obviously not the best if you're looking for a very aggressive feel, but with the Yellows set fairly stiff it suited my skills and driving style. The only thing I didn't like about it was through quick left-right-left transitions there was a slight hesitation on turn-in when really pushed, so I had to be pretty smooth with the steering wheel. Might've been due to numerous other factors, though.

Daily driving, I set the shocks 2 turns from full soft in front and 1 in the rear, and it felt almost stock-ish but a little firmer. Still very controlled and controllable but very smooth. 2/1 turns front/rear was the best compromise for me for spirited runs thrown into a large dose of daily driving.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah Tokico blues are the worst shocks ever.
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Do you have anything to back that statement up with or are you just talking out of your ***?
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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GC and Tokico seem to work well for my buddy
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Just got a 2000 civic si!!! NEED OPINIONS (hondamonkey)

This question is easier than some, since of the "big three" suspension goals (looks, comfort, performance), you're only looking for two - looks and comfort.

You can't lower a Civic 3 inches and keep a smooth ride without using air bags or air cylinders. 2 inches is do-able with conventional coilover suspension, but the car is obviously not going to ride as comfortably as stock. Couple a set of "sport" springs or GC coilovers (with comparable rates) with a good damper like Tokico Illumina, Koni Special or Koni Sport and you'll be set. Or you may want to look at a softly-sprung coilover kit such as Tein Basic.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Default Re: Just got a 2000 civic si!!! NEED OPINIONS (hondamonkey)

If you want to drop it that much and still have a smooth ride, the best route to go would probably be Koni Yellow shocks, GC coilovers with softer spring rates (Limited Edition would work I'd imagine) and GC shock mounts.

Your other option would be to get a double adjustable full coilover system that doesn't change the shock length when lowering. But ride comfort may not be as smooth as what you're hoping for.

Latez,

Paul
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Look into koni yellows + h&r sports. Provides a smooth ride on *good* roads. Its firm, but still comfortable enough for daily driving. I've been on this setup for nearly 2yrs now and I've been quite happy with it.
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