Acura Integra All Integra Except ITR

Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:26 AM
  #1  
dcdcdc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA, us
Default Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same!

I was driving and i was in third gear and i brought it all the way up to around 8100rpms. Then my dumbass shifted to 2nd instead of goin to 4th gear ON ACCIDENT and it went all they up to 9500rpms. Now when i idle, the motor seems to idle more rough then before and i can tell because my steering wheel has a slight vibration and this was not a problem before. I looked at the motor while its idling and theres a slight movement also and it used to be smooth. Anyone have ever done this or know what can be wrong with my motor? p.s. Im not positivley sure but i think i heard something come out of the engine bay when this happen (like a bolt or somthing)
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:58 AM
  #2  
Haleiwa-Brando's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,909
Likes: 0
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

Your engine is toast, and why your trying to drive it/turn it on is beyond me. You need to pull the head, and see which valves and pistons you ruined and go from there. Don't create more damage that what has already happened.

Not to flame you personally but there seems to be a ton of 'money shifts' lately. I simply cannot understand how someone can do this.

This is unfortunate for you, because this is going to cost you a large sum of cash. However, you can use this 'opportunity' to build the bottom end to be bullet proof.

Good luck, and DO NOT turn the motor over.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:06 AM
  #3  
.water's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,102
Likes: 0
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (Haleiwa-Brando)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not to flame you personally but there seems to be a ton of 'money shifts' lately. I simply cannot understand how someone can do this.
.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think they shifted too hard. too much power that your hand was pulling to your side. anyways open your head see whats up..if you are lucky there will be any big damage, such as hole on block, crack cyl, melt cly, crack cam shaft..
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:15 AM
  #4  
BlueIntegraBoy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 23,967
Likes: 9
From: Las Vegas
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

Bent valves
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:33 AM
  #5  
stockegsix's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,605
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles CA, Houston TX
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (BlueIntegraBoy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bent valves</TD></TR></TABLE>

my first thoughts exactly
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:33 AM
  #6  
AlphaQup's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,183
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

Put your money on a used head, build it, and slap it on. Search this site and you'll find tons of info on "how-to" DIY.

You can try re-adjusting your valves first before you dive into replacing the head though. Good luck dood. Learn how to shift y0!
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:06 AM
  #7  
LTHLINTGRA's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Northern, VA
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (BlueIntegraBoy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bent valves</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:31 AM
  #8  
HoUTX98GSR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 644
Likes: 1
From: houston, tx, usa
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

ive done this before but it was worse... i was trying to go to third and somehow it went into first!!!! it just hit the rev limiter... i bet you just busted a motor mount. check all your motor mounts for cracks and make sure all the bolts are in them..
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:58 AM
  #9  
RHDintegXsi's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,768
Likes: 0
From: ...Because i can
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (HoUTX98GSR)

bent valves...i would try a leak down test first to be sure before you commit yourself into pulling it apart...
if it is bent valves you can save a lot of money doing the work yourself..pullin the head, buying the valves and letting a machine shot replace them costs a lot less than you'de think...we did the same with one of our gsr's
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 11:40 AM
  #10  
dcdcdc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA, us
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (SINFULintegXsi)

yes it was a stupid thing but thanks for al the responses. so far im gettin that the valves might be bent? please keep the reply's coming so i have more input on this and what i should do thanks to all!
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:07 PM
  #11  
xteg95's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcdcdc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes it was a stupid thing but thanks for al the responses. so far im gettin that the valves might be bent? please keep the reply's coming so i have more input on this and what i should do thanks to all!</TD></TR></TABLE>

make that "might be bent" to almost guarnteed bent...this is the 3rd thread ive read today with people shifting from 3rd to 2nd

take head apart and look for yourself if you really want to know...
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:33 PM
  #12  
teggsr01's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
From: temecula, ca, usa
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

did the same thing u blew your valve train but if it stills runs but it is just rough u still need a valve train job have fun with that expense i spent 2500 on my valve train so i hope you have fun with that just do everybody a favor build it right and dont do it half ***
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 01:42 PM
  #13  
Haleiwa-Brando's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,909
Likes: 0
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcdcdc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes it was a stupid thing but thanks for al the responses. so far im gettin that the valves might be bent? please keep the reply's coming so i have more input on this and what i should do thanks to all!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand your probably freaking out. However, this is a VERY basic thing and there is not much to it. You either:
1) screwed up something or
2) did not screw up something. We know it's #1.

#1 will then lead you to another set of numbers.
1) bent/broken valve(s)
2)broken/melted piston(s)
3) Spun bearing(s)
4) 2 out of 3
5) 3 out of 3

All of these unfortunately are going to involve the removal of the head for determination on what you have done. It is really that basic. Your next step is remove the head, take pics of the damage and we can tell you where to go from there. Let's keep our fingers crossed that tje damage isn't to extensive.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:59 PM
  #14  
hotsuma23's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 907
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX, U.S.A.
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (Haleiwa-Brando)

Thats why anytime im upshifting from 3 to 4, or downshifting from 5-4 i always put my palm ON TOP of the shift **** and pull straight down, so that way i dont go into 2nd. Good luck man, dont worry too much just fix it and move on.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:13 PM
  #15  
Uncle Ben's's Avatar
Cogent Argument Enthusiast
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 8,029
Likes: 0
From: Solving riddles, Gotham
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (hotsuma23)

thats shitty. he might have hope; my friend has a prelude SI which received an h22 as soon as he bought it. he used the h23 transmission , so that was toast after less than a year. he misshifted like 3-4 times when the tranny was on its way out, and his engine is fine with over 75k on it.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:32 PM
  #16  
s2kdre's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 0
From: Skmotoring.com
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (benb18a)

bent valves again.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:48 PM
  #17  
jizno's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 289
Likes: 0
From: madison, wi, usa
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

bent valves, good luck with that
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:45 PM
  #18  
dcdcdc's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA, us
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (benb18a)

did he downshift that bad with those rpm's i mentioned? and i have no rev limiter on my car.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 10:17 PM
  #19  
Tchleung's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,593
Likes: 0
From: Penticton, BC, Canada
Default

Chances are you hit alot higher then 9500. And a rev limtier will do dick all when the engien is being forced to rotate faster via wheels.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 11:01 PM
  #20  
TrueUntilDeath.com's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 7,362
Likes: 0
From: Huntington Beach / Carson, CA, USA
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (Haleiwa-Brando)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not to flame you personally but there seems to be a ton of 'money shifts' lately. I simply cannot understand how someone can do this.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

mis-shifts happen to professional racers as well. accidents happen.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 11:47 PM
  #21  
OnDaBottle's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, Kali, US OF A
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (dcdcdc)

Do a leakdown test first if you have access to the equipment. You really don't have that big of a problem if you just bent your valves. If you have time and patience you can pull the head off with ease. Buy the valves and replace them yourself. Just make sure they're sealing right cut the seats if you have too but if you don't have a tool send it to a machine shop. With the money you save on labor you might as well spend on springs/cams/etc.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:06 AM
  #22  
RexB16's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,359
Likes: 0
From: san diego, ca
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (OnDaBottle)

bent valves and prolly more, i am suprised you still have a motor... just pull the head off like everyone said to and you'll find some bent valves and perhaps a cracked piston or two.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:56 AM
  #23  
jdmGSR.fo0!'s Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
From: The Land Of VTEC, SoCal, usa
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (RexB16)

Yeah im also guessing bent valves.. what is your car idling at? Does the idle fluctuate?
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 03:23 AM
  #24  
Outkast95LS's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,688
Likes: 0
From: State Ref Ticket Central, CA, USA
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (JDMH22EJ)

Just like what everyone else said, bent valves. What i would do is do a valve adjustment, and then do a compression test.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:00 AM
  #25  
urb's Avatar
urb
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: elkhart, In, us
Default Re: Miss shifted bad!!! Car wont idle the same! (Nine5IntegraLS)

??? Valve adjustment,what is this going to help??And what computer program are you running that doesnt have a rev limiter on it??Accidents happen!!!!Im sure everyone has misshifted there fair share of times.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:31 AM.