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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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hey can any of you help me i need to know how to measure this crank to tell if its an ls crank. it is suposidly out of a b18b i just need to make sure. thanks
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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what do the stamps say
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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the thing is there is a bunch of stamps all accros the crank some say A2 other just A and just 2 there is also a P and two 4's stamped in it. anyone know??
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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i can go in my Garage and check but im hella lazy right now
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Can't tell what crank that is, but #2 main journal looks pretty wasted
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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thatd be no.3, lol
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thatd be no.3, lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

huh? j/k?
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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rod journal width should tell you what you need to know
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Thats journal number 2.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't tell what crank that is, but #2 main journal looks pretty wasted </TD></TR></TABLE>
nah thats just dried up oil or something it wiped off and looks good.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innovation &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rod journal width should tell you what you need to know </TD></TR></TABLE>
well then do you know what the rod journal width for an ls crank is?
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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it looks like its been out of the motor for a while and sitting.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e jay one &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks like its been out of the motor for a while and sitting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ls = .935", same as b16/b17

gsr/typer = .858"

that's the con rod width, but it is enough to help you figure out journal width
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ls = .935", same as b16/b17

gsr/typer = .858"

that's the con rod width, but it is enough to help you figure out journal width</TD></TR></TABLE>
so then how can i tell this isnt a b16 or b17 crank? are any of the bearings different between ls and b16 and gsr? if so couldnt i just get the ls bearings and see if they fit? and what do you mean by con?
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Then you would check the stroke right?
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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just put it in a ls block with some ls rods and see what it is lol
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frankenfiend 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just put it in a ls block with some ls rods and see what it is lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea but i need to get everything balanced before i assemble the motor and if it turns out to be the wrong crank i will be extremely pist off im sure you could imagine.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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why dont you take it somewhere to get measured&gt;?

are the stamps youre talking about all separated? or is one like "pr4" or something....
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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Looking at the picture I say its a ls crank. The rod journals look wider then gsr.
You could also take a rod bearing and lay it on the journal. You should be able to tell from that.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont you take it somewhere to get measured&gt;?

are the stamps youre talking about all separated? or is one like "pr4" or something....</TD></TR></TABLE>
because i live in a small town and there only one machine shop that knows nothing about honda motors. i can measuer it my self if i can find out the numbers. would a helms have them? the stamps are all seperated the only one that is together is A2 there is no pr4.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowReaction &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could also take a rod bearing and lay it on the journal. You should be able to tell from that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i think thats what im gonna have to do. some one has to have a for sure ls crank laying around.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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i mean just put it in the block and crank it.. not totally assemble it
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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the LS journal is roughly .070 wider than gsr.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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Measure what the stroke is.

Oh and also store the crank on its end not laying flat.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91sihatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Measure what the stroke is.

Oh and also store the crank on its end not laying flat. </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you know how to measure the stroke? and yea i know i just layed it down to take the pic.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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it doesnt take a honda person to measure stroke even an incompetant v8 redneck could do it if he worked at a machine shop, stroke is stroke regarless of v8, i4, or v16...
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt take a honda person to measure stroke even an incompetant v8 redneck could do it if he worked at a machine shop, stroke is stroke regarless of v8, i4, or v16...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i know this but i highly doubt he will know the numbers between honda b series cranks. hes like a 70 year old dude at this old run down machine shop that looked at me funny when i told him i was building a honda motor but he can do the machine work for me. and thats why i need to know the specs so i can measure it my self. anyone?
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