Hey whats up people,
Just enjoying the day and H-T and wanted to ask a few questions

I have already searched too

I am thinking about buying a Nikon D70,
I know its an awsome DSLR so I only have a few questions

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Does the D70 have a movie mode?
If so, Is it any good what-so-ever?

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I was going to buy some video cam that records right onto a DVD
but if the Nikon D70 has movie mode I would rather just spend like 1,000 than having to buy the d70 and the video cam
Thanks,

 

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NoBody?

 

Do you really need to be buying a DSLR? I'd be getting some experience with a P&S first. You can have the most expensive camera on the market and still be taking shitty photos. Also I'd recommend asking on a photo forum like http://www.AccessPhoto.com or http://www.iphotoforum.com . As far as I know the D70 has no video mode.

 

No Digital SLR has a movie mode, they just don't work that way.

 

Ok thanks, For somereason I thought they did


Are you saying I dont know how to take pictures?

Here are a few pics I took with my current $150 Digi cam, Sony 2.0 MP

I know its nothing decent but I just want to show that With a crapy digi cam, I'm not the worst you have ever seen


*Below* I like this one cuz my 87 Integra is in the background




Ok, Thanks anyway guys

Later

 

to go into more detail:

SLR stands for single lens reflex. Instead of having a lens that takes the picture and a separate viewfinder like on a point and shoot camera, there is a single lens, and you see the image directly through the lens via a mirror that sits at a 45 deg. angle between the lens and shutter.

When you snap the picture, the lens flips up out of the way the instant that the shutter is open and drops back down after the shutter closes.

For this reason, the LCD on a DSLR is for reviewing images only. You must look through the viewfinder to frame the shot and make sure it's in focus, etc. And since the mirror is between the lens and shutter when the shutter is closed, there is no way for a movie mode to capture any images.

Now if you would be interested in something more like P&S/SLR hybrid, check out the Olympus C-8080. My dad just got one, it's 8 MP with a 28-140mm equivalent zoom lens (not interchangeable). It's not an SLR, but the viewfinder is actually LCD so it's like having an SLR, and it can also do movies. He got his online for about $680 brand new.

 

It has nothing to do with being able to take pictures.

Digital SLR cameras simply do not work like Point-and-shoot digitals with electronic viewfinders.

Very few digital SLRs like the Fuji S3 allow for a brief, limited preview via the LCD screen or the Canon 20D-a special model -- it's for astrophotography.

I have a D70 as one of my cameras and it's pretty nice, but for most people a point a shoot will make them more happy -- A Canon Digital Rebel is more point-and-shoot and out of the camera pictures are probably going to be more like what most folks are used to.

yadda yadda

 

Yes, Thanks for the Info

I think being able to just point and shot is nice, However
I am more interested in taking the time to find,
<U>A nice angle, background and a nice subject all at the same time</U>, I am willing to
search hard to find this combination (Spelling)
As I feel a "Point-And-Shoot" wont forfil(Spelling) my intrest in Photograpgy

I feel a Nikon D70 is what I am looking for,

Should I still wait and look into other cameras?

Thanks, Later

 

Make sure you know how to use it. take a day off from work and life, RIGHT when you get the camera, and read the entire manual.

Work out the camera with the manual for a few days.

DONT buy a DSLR unless you plan on changing the Lens in a later time...

 

nikon has a prettycool new cam coming out.
d50
looks to be aimed at a lower pricepoint.
definetely should be cool.

nikons cheapest cameras have build qualities of much more expensive cams
so I would have no problem purchasing a lowend slr from them.

 

oh and btw,
don't hunt for an SLR if you want movie mode.

SLR's won't have it, because of what they are, SLR!
they have to go through a function of opening/closing the shutter mechanism
every time they fire.

even the expensive one's can't do that at 30fps.
maybe like 5fps at best...

 

Edit

 

Consumer miniDV cams don't take great still pictures.

Don't try to get something that does a little of everything and nothing well...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to go into more detail:

SLR stands for single lens reflex. Instead of having a lens that takes the picture and a separate viewfinder like on a point and shoot camera, there is a single lens, and you see the image directly through the lens via a mirror that sits at a 45 deg. angle between the lens and shutter.

When you snap the picture, the lens flips up out of the way the instant that the shutter is open and drops back down after the shutter closes.

For this reason, the LCD on a DSLR is for reviewing images only. You must look through the viewfinder to frame the shot and make sure it's in focus, etc. And since the mirror is between the lens and shutter when the shutter is closed, there is no way for a movie mode to capture any images.

Now if you would be interested in something more like P&S/SLR hybrid, check out the Olympus C-8080. My dad just got one, it's 8 MP with a 28-140mm equivalent zoom lens (not interchangeable). It's not an SLR, but the viewfinder is actually LCD so it's like having an SLR, and it can also do movies. He got his online for about $680 brand new.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well said

 

dont even play with "p&s / slr hybrids" they are nothing more than a p&s in an oversized body. the things that make an slr an slr, like lens interchangeability, very fine control, high iso & low noise, and speed are no where to be found in any thing but an slr.

i own the d70, and several lenses. it is the best camera that i have owned to date, and i have owned alot of cameras.

check out the exposed photo forums in my sig.

 

if you're looking for something with movie mode and plenty of automatic features, any d-slr is not for you.

 

actually, the body of the d70 is one of the draw backs. many complain it feels "cheap" due to the plastic body.

the d70 is a great ENTRY level dslr. for the money its also a great buy.

if you enjoy photography i'm sure you will enjoy the camera. GO FOR IT!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually, the body of the d70 is one of the draw backs. many complain it feels "cheap" due to the plastic body.

the d70 is a great ENTRY level dslr. for the money its also a great buy.

if you enjoy photography i'm sure you will enjoy the camera. GO FOR IT!</TD></TR></TABLE>

the d70 has polycarbonate body which is extremely durable (more so than a metal body that will dent)

the build quality is unsurpassed and is a very very solidly built camera... (and ive owned probably 15 cameras... every thing from 150$ p&s cameras to 3000$+ slrs)

the d70 may be entry in the sense that is one of nikons lower level cameras in their slr line, or maybe in the price that it only costs 1300 bucks, but it is by no means an entry level camera in the sense of the term.

check out ken rockwells direct comparison between the d70 & 20d. ken rockwell is a world renowned photographer, and he prefers the d70 to the 20d.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xdjoynerx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont even play with "p&s / slr hybrids" they are nothing more than a p&s in an oversized body. the things that make an slr an slr, like lens interchangeability, very fine control, high iso & low noise, and speed are no where to be found in any thing but an slr.

i own the d70, and several lenses. it is the best camera that i have owned to date, and i have owned alot of cameras.

check out the exposed photo forums in my sig.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope you're not trying to discount what I said above about the Olympus my dad got. My dad has been a photography junkie for well over 40 years. When I was younger he did it professionally and had his own studio along with his partner. Probably for at least as long as I've been alive (25+ years) he has sworn by Nikon. I grew up with him teaching me to use his old Nikon FM2 (100% manual SLR). He's owned such cameras as the Nikon F3 (titanium body), and still has a Nikon F4 since they first came out ($2000 for the body alone when they were new). As he started getting into digital photography he got a Nikon Coolpix 5000 when they first came out ($1000 camera back then) and last year he got a Nikon D100 so that he would be able to use all his Nikon AF lenses.

Well now he is trying to sell the D100, and surprising to me, bought the Olympus. He said the Olympus does everything the D100 did and more. The lens it has also will go out to an effective 28mm focal length. Because of the size of the CCD in the D100, a 28mm lens becomes more like a ~45mm lens because of the multiplier.

Now I just said it's like a "hybrid" because when I think of an SLR, I think of a camera where you see the actual image through the lens when you look through the viewfinder. On the Olympus C-8080 the viewfinder is LCD, so you still see the exact image through the lens in the viewfinder. So to me it's like an SLR, but it's also like a P&S (if you set it to full auto), but of course you can also choose the shutter speed, aperature, ISO setting, white balance, etc etc. So therefore I think of it as a hybrid.

Don't disregard it just because of what I called it. If my dad thinks it's good enough to use as his "good" digital camera (he still has the CoolPix 5000 also) then it must be pretty darn good.

Just to give you an idea of what my dad is like, he used the Olympus to take pics of the D100 to put it on eBay. He went so far as to set up everything that would be included in the auction on a table with a white sheet for the background, and he even busted out his professional light stands and Metz flashes to use for the pics. Yeah he's a photo junkie.

 

i think what he meant is that if you're going to spend the money, you might as well just get a dSLR since the quality & control of dSLR's surpasses those hybrids, even at the entry level.

 

well I don't know, like I said my dad says the Olympus C-8080 does everything his D100 did and more, the only thing you don't have is interchangeable lenses. He says the images even look sharper and more in focus than the images taken by the D100.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well I don't know, like I said my dad says the Olympus C-8080 does everything his D100 did and more, the only thing you don't have is interchangeable lenses. He says the images even look sharper and more in focus than the images taken by the D100.</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA

well first off, interchangeable lenses are invaluable, but not even including that, speed wise the 8080 couldnt even come close to touching the d100, not to mention that the sensor is 1/5th the size of the d100's. so at 400 iso on 8080 your gonna be getting probably twice as much noise as you would with the d100 at 1600.

the 8080 is nothing more than an advanced point and shoot....

im not saying the 8080 is bad for what it is, but its not even in the same class as the lowest of low entry dslrs



thats the d100 sensor compared to a sensor the size of the 8080's

8080 samples

http://i.pbase.com/u26/boobybo...1.jpg

notice the noise, over sharpening (p&s do this to compensate for lack of image and lens quality), and cromatic abrasions.

http://i.pbase.com/u38/ritzlau...4.jpg

http://mishami.image.pbase.com...6.jpg

http://mishappa.image.pbase.co...6.jpg

D70 pictures (same camera as the d100 essentially, same sensor)








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if your dad has been doing this for 40 years and he thinks the 8080 is a better camera than the d100 i think he is going senile


Modified by xdjoynerx at 2:12 AM 6/2/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87Integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok thanks, For somereason I thought they did


Are you saying I dont know how to take pictures?

Here are a few pics I took with my current $150 Digi cam, Sony 2.0 MP

I know its nothing decent but I just want to show that With a crapy digi cam, I'm not the worst you have ever seen
</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not what I was saying, a lot of people want a DSLR because they think it will transform their photos, which it obviously won't.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87Integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, Thanks for the Info

I think being able to just point and shot is nice, However
I am more interested in taking the time to find,
A nice angle, background and a nice subject all at the same time, I am willing to
search hard to find this combination (Spelling)
As I feel a "Point-And-Shoot" wont forfil(Spelling) my intrest in Photograpgy

I feel a Nikon D70 is what I am looking for,

Should I still wait and look into other cameras?

Thanks, Later</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here you totally lost me, point and shoot is a term referring to a type of camera, you can still find a "nice angle, background and a nice subject" with a point and shoot, most of them have manual modes and you can still take nice photos. I'd say finding something in between your 2MP P&S and the very expensive and complicated D70 DSLR would be a good bet.

 

nice pics