how streetable is an ACT xtreme pp with a sprung 6puck race disc?

 

depends on how you drive, some can pull it off, some cant. I have an ACT Xtreme PP with a 6 puck disk, unsprung, I drive it fine, no chatter at all, just sucks in traffic, you just gotta watch it. So it really depends on how you drive it.

 

I have a act 6 puck clutch and it's not to bad for the street when i down shift i have to rev match so it doesn't shake and destroy the car. Ii really depends what you plan to do with the car I made the mistake of getting this clutch and now wanting to road race rather than drag

 

yeah im not much of a road racer, i want to drag at the track when i can.
when u say u rev match when down shifting wut do you mean (I thought rev matching was when u shift without using the clutch by pulling out of gear and going into the next gear at a certain rpm depending on wut speed you are going?) Sorry for being a such a newb

 

sprung is easy, its the unsprung that you gotta get use to

 

I drove on a 6 puck clutch of my friends in his Turbo D Series and it seemed fine. Although I am use to drive the ACT XTSS Clutch on my ITR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaIntegraR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sprung is easy, its the unsprung that you gotta get use to</TD></TR></TABLE>

what does sprung mean?

 

puts alot more wear on your input shaft bearing inside your tranny alot of the times. they definately grab though!

 

it's pretty good to drive.. it's alot easyer than mine 6puck with the stock pressure plate

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbofienD 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's pretty good to drive.. it's alot easyer than mine 6puck with the stock pressure plate</TD></TR></TABLE>

whoa stock pressure plate?? that thing should be toasted

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaIntegraR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa stock pressure plate?? that thing should be toasted</TD></TR></TABLE> actually i was suprised it holds up pretty good

 

youd be suprised how much power a stock PP can hold with a 4 or 6 puck disc.

 

my question is still this: does anyone else have to do special shifting(rev matching) with this clutch?

also my friend told me that it could possibly snap my axles if they are stock anyone can tell me more about that?

 

6puck is really not that good for a street car i mean if u drag race

 

Not that god for wut? Daily driving? Or performance?

 

i have a 6 puck in a street car.
SUCKS.
drag only.
stop and go traffic is fine, or if it's your second car it's fine.
but it's a BITCH to drive. TRUST ME.
I OWN ONE.

get a clutchmasters stg3.
full face carbon kevlar.
it'll hold ALL the power you ever make all motor on your street car.
and it drives near stock.

if you get the 6 puck don't say you were not warned.

also, you don't need the xtreme pressure plate. you'll get a hernia trying to push down ur clutch.

i know because i drove an ACT xtreme on my boys prelude.
it was fuccin rediculous.

but hey, if you still want one, that's on you.
try to find someone who has one, and drive around for awhile.
you'll see.

 

it wont snap axles but might happen rarely... you dont have to do any special shifting.. my freind has the 6puck with the extreame pressure plate..he daily drove that.. it's harder in feel than a normal clutch is but it's easy to get used to it

 

didn't see the post before me.. get the sprung one than if you want a 6 puck still

 

an interesting note- Competition Clutch gravity series clutches, their 'stage 1' clutch, include a 6 puck sprung hub disc...

A sprung hub disc, no matter what the material/ full-faced/ pucked should be streetable...the springs are there to help with that, as well as save your axles/ mainshaft bearings; it's just that many of these kits include pressure plates with INCREDIBLE clamping pressures (like the ACT Xtreme) and/or the finger geometry on the pressure plate is so that the clutch feels like it's either ON or OFF, so you end up having driveability issues, and also, break-in is very important to the driveabilty you end up with...duh.

 

Thanks for all the feedback, i was just wondering cuz i can get one for 180 which is a really good deal.

Does anyone is norcal (510) area have this application so i can try it out?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an interesting note- Competition Clutch gravity series clutches, their 'stage 1' clutch, include a 6 puck sprung hub disc...

A sprung hub disc, no matter what the material/ full-faced/ pucked should be streetable...the springs are there to help with that, as well as save your axles/ mainshaft bearings; it's just that many of these kits include pressure plates with INCREDIBLE clamping pressures (like the ACT Xtreme) and/or the finger geometry on the pressure plate is so that the clutch feels like it's either ON or OFF, so you end up having driveability issues, and also, break-in is very important to the driveabilty you end up with...duh.</TD></TR></TABLE>

mine is a sprung hub 6 puck..streetable? yes..
is it a BITCH? understatement.

 

I prefer unsprung compared to sprung. I had a cm stage 5 6puck unsprung and switched to a stage 4 sprung which at the time had 4 pucks, I hated it as it chattered. I went back to a 4 puck unsprung cm stage 5 and its great. you have to slip it when you drive but at least it doesnt chatter.. Now the cm pressure plate isnt hard on the foot so it makes it slip easily with little pedal pressure. I would never want to drive an act like that though as the pedal pressure sucks and it would be very tiring.

 

Yeah but what if i only drive short distances, and almost never in traffic, will it still be bad for just driving around the city?

Wut about the life expectany of the clutch? How long do these clutches usually last, under pretty rigerous use?

 

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Wut about the life expectany of the clutch? How long do these clutches usually last, under pretty rigerous use?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now this is where facing material really tells the story...if you abuse it, obviously it will wear fast no matter what it is, however, common believe is that carbon w/ kevlar offers the best durability for high-perf apps, organic facings can be long lasting but are very easy to destroy/ wear once introduced to alot of heat from aggressive driving. Metallic facings can have varying degrees of durability, depending on what the compound is composed of (metal & carbon, etc) and are great at handling heat and power. Metal and Ceramic offer the best power management for very high performance applications but on the flip side the least longevity and can more easily wear associated parts like pressure plate surfaces and flywheels. Full faced clutches tend to last longer than pucked for obvious reasons...

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mine is a sprung hub 6 puck..streetable? yes..
is it a BITCH? understatement.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i understand that yours in particular is tough to deal with. what you are saying is why i orig. posted; unfortunately, you can't classify a clutch's streetability or ease of use based solely on the disc. Like i mentioned, Comp Clutch uses 6 puck sprung discs in its entry level gravity series clutches, and these clutches literally feel like stock. The reason? 1 is springs in the hub, and 2. is the pressure plate is very similar to stock in clamping force and finger rate/ geometry....hence, the second part of my orig. comments re: the outrageous pressure plate clamping forces these clutch companies offer with their latter stage clutch kits.


EDIT: i ******* spelled "where", "wear"....the internet has killed my grammar.


Modified by builthatch at 2:37 PM 6/2/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now this is wear material really tells the story...if you abuse it, obviously it will wear fast no matter what it is, however, common believe is that carbon w/ kevlar offers the best durability for high-perf apps, organic facings can be long lasting but are very easy to destroy/ wear once introduced to alot of heat from aggressive driving. Metallic compounds usually offer the best power management for very high performance applications but on the flip side the least longevity and can more easily wear associated parts like pressure plate surfaces and flywheels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats some very good info