Honda Prelude All Model Preludes

safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 27, 2005 | 05:03 PM
  #1  
candyman3106's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler

safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler ???????? run 6 psi
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 05:16 PM
  #2  
SilverPanda's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: san diego, CA, united states
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (candyman3106)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by candyman3106 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler ???????? run 6 psi</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you cared about your car you wouldnt get a turbo kit
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 05:21 PM
  #3  
Nature's Renewal's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (vtech22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtech22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you cared about your car you wouldnt get a turbo kit </TD></TR></TABLE> What the heck? Are you talking specifically to this guy or everyone who turbos a prelude?
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 05:37 PM
  #4  
plikit's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 525
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, az, us
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler

theres nothing wrong with boosting a lude. you just have to know what youre doin. you probably dont want to boost a vtec unless you bore it out because with a 10:1 compression youll probably blow the motor... even with a mild boost. i dont have a boosted lude but my uncle has been using turbos and superchargers for years. the best thing to do is build the motor to suit the your boost setup. not vice versa.
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 06:04 PM
  #5  
SilverPanda's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: san diego, CA, united states
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (Kristoff)

no its fine to boost your lude, but turbo KITS are
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 06:10 PM
  #6  
SilverPanda's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: san diego, CA, united states
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (vtech22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killa_lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LEARN ABOUT BUILDING a motor, then you can piece everything together yourself the way it should be. Turbokits you buy from somewhere are for idiots w/ no aspirations for their car.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 06:14 PM
  #7  
01 LudeDude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 422
Likes: 0
From: Columbus, Ohio
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (plikit)

While I agree that building the motor is a good idea, that's not to say that you can't boost a stock H22 so long as the boost is mild (6-8), and the tune is well done. Many people around here have done it successfully, including myself. If I had the option of an IC, I would certainly have one. If you plan to go turbo, then I would suggest an intercooler, even a small one. Anything you can do to lower intake temps will lessen your chances of detonation, and from what I've seen/read, that is what generally kills H22s (ring lands). Just remember that Tuning is key for your engine to last, boosted or not.
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 07:55 PM
  #8  
jnet's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
From: Chesterfield, VA
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (plikit)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by plikit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres nothing wrong with boosting a lude. you just have to know what youre doin. you probably dont want to boost a vtec unless you bore it out because with a 10:1 compression youll probably blow the motor... even with a mild boost. i dont have a boosted lude but my uncle has been using turbos and superchargers for years. the best thing to do is build the motor to suit the your boost setup. not vice versa.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can't just "bore it out", that requires new pistons. And forged pistons in the H22 means new sleeves, and well thats all about $1500, so you might as well throw in rods too.
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 08:11 PM
  #9  
Dougs96SI's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 0
From: TN
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (candyman3106)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by candyman3106 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler ???????? run 6 psi</TD></TR></TABLE>


Not safe at all.
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 10:54 AM
  #10  
plikit's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 525
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, az, us
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (jnet)

when i said bore it out i assumed you knew what went along with that..
i just wanted to point out 10:1 compression is a little harder to deal with when boosting a vtec. if youre going to spend your money on a turbo or supercharger setup may as well do it right.
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 11:21 AM
  #11  
Innovation's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 967
Likes: 1
From: Carson, CA
Default Re:

Anyone whos not willing to spend the money on a complete, efficient turbo kit will 9 times out of time... not be willing to spend the money on proper tuning/engine management.

Being cheap gets expensive when **** starts blowing up
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 12:11 PM
  #12  
clemsoncb7's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
From: Clemson, SC, United States
Default Re: Re: (Innovation)

Yes, very bad idea. Those gases recirculated are hot enough as is, the only chance of saving your motor (stock bottom end) is by cooling down those charge gases and not frying your rings by using an intercooler. Even with 6psi, don't cheap out.
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 12:23 PM
  #13  
AzCivic1.6's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 0
Default Re: safety on stock engine a turbo kit w/out intercooler (plikit)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by plikit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when i said bore it out i assumed you knew what went along with that..
i just wanted to point out 10:1 compression is a little harder to deal with when boosting a vtec. if youre going to spend your money on a turbo or supercharger setup may as well do it right. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sooo, what does boring it out have to do with the compression????
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:18 PM
  #14  
sharkcohen's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,374
Likes: 1
From: East Bay, CA, USA
Default Re: Re: (maxvtec7500)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, very bad idea. Those gases recirculated are hot enough as is, the only chance of saving your motor (stock bottom end) is by cooling down those charge gases and not frying your rings by using an intercooler. Even with 6psi, don't cheap out. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Recirculated gases?
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 01:59 PM
  #15  
prelittlelude's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 3,969
Likes: 6
From: northern DRUNKit, ma
Default Re: Re: (sharkcohen)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Recirculated gases? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah um what?


but if you don't run even a small intercooler then you going to have rediculously high intake temps and that is what aids in detonation. if you get too much or even alittle detonation on a honda motor say bye bye ring landings.

if you really didn't want to run an intercooler and you wanted to keep the intake temps down you could run water/meth injection, but something tells me that is alittle to far out of the picture for you.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
xkrntamax
Acura Integra
15
Jan 28, 2007 04:06 PM
egzo04
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
3
Nov 15, 2005 11:51 AM
I Like Boost
Forced Induction
8
Mar 24, 2004 10:50 AM
Gmedalion
Honda S2000
18
May 7, 2003 06:04 AM
ludelvr
Honda Prelude
5
Apr 1, 2003 12:09 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:11 AM.