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Old May 27, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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I was wondering I have a 1993 hond accord LX with a F22A Engine stock. So I figure it pushes out about 125-130 horses. I know they make turbo' for the 1994 accord's which carries the f22a4, or f22a6. So can a Turbo be fitted for my or is there a Turbo for my car. I'm still a beginner to the honda scene but I know my honda still. I'm just looking to make my car a quick car if I can get it to hit 14 to 15 sec in the 1/4 mile. Is it possilbe with this engine?
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Old May 27, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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you probably have a lot of miles on that motor, so a rebuild would be a good idea first before turbo. what i would do though is swap in a h22a motor first. do a search for that.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Yeah thats what alot of people tell me. Either a B18c or h22 but I was trying to keep it stock. I was just wondering could I fit a Tubro onto a 90-93 from a 94-97 accord. Yeah I know so people that do a complete rebuilt for $300
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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hahaha... 300$ to rebuild a turbo maybe, i sure as wouldnt trust a $300 rebuilt engine.... bu tthats on you...... i just made a completely custom kit myself for my CB7... i had a 1990 and blew the auto trans which ad a F22A1, now i put everythin on my 1992 5sp with a F22A6.... Check out cb7tuner.com.... everyone there can help you out, youll get sum EXCELENT info on 4th gens and esp. on turboing..... good lukk w/ the project, oh and dont listen 2 every1 wen they say an H22 is better.... on 9psi and a leaking head gasket i SPANKED all the stock and lightly modilfied H22 CB7s around here....
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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first of all no b or d series engines in an accord, next you gotta spend a couple months reading on HT and cb7tuner before you do anything to your car, then decide on staying naturally aspirated or going turbo, if you are going NA then h22 swap is you best bet, turboing then stick with your f22, either way you are not going to want an auto tranny so change that/trade your car for a manual, it is much cheaper to put together a turbo kit than to buy one(you could get a setup going for around $1000 if you put it together yourself), but the most important thing is to read and learn, its better to wait 2 months for your 14 second accord than to buy it all now, and spend double your money doing it right the second time around

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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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Yeah I understand that, oh I have plenty of time to wait. I love everything about my Accord. So I was thinking of trading out the transmission. Yeah I plan on doing alot of reading. The thing is I could not find a tubro kit for my car anyways they only make them for the 94-97 series accords.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted2aComa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha... 300$ to rebuild a turbo maybe, i sure as wouldnt trust a $300 rebuilt engine.... bu tthats on you...... i just made a completely custom kit myself for my CB7... i had a 1990 and blew the auto trans which ad a F22A1, now i put everythin on my 1992 5sp with a F22A6.... Check out cb7tuner.com.... everyone there can help you out, youll get sum EXCELENT info on 4th gens and esp. on turboing..... good lukk w/ the project, oh and dont listen 2 every1 wen they say an H22 is better.... on 9psi and a leaking head gasket i SPANKED all the stock and lightly modilfied H22 CB7s around here....</TD></TR></TABLE>
i love that place...cb7tuner.com is the place to go
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Old May 27, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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to answer your question the turbo kits to the 94-97 accords will not work on the 90-93 because the exaust port patterns on the manifold are different. However with some work DSM manifolds can fit the 90-93s. You may be able to find a dsm manifold for fairly cheap. Like twistedbydezign said, you should probably spend a while reading on here before you plan on making any major modifications. I have been here since december and i feel like I am almost ready to turbo (only if i had the money). Good luck


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Old May 27, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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most people like to put there own turbo kit together piece by piece. kits are high priced for the quality to put forth and you don't get exactly what you want. all you need is to get the correct turbo manifold and piece everything together based on that manifold. you can even get a manny custom but it will cost more but yeild better power gains. and yeah stick with f and h series engines, even if the others would fit/work why would you go down the drain. b and d series are torqueless compared to the f and h serious. who ever told you to go with the b18 obviously don't know to much about swaps. its not just the hp to look at torque is all so important when it comes to power.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Yeah I've been reading all day. So much my elbow hurts from having on the computer stand for too long. Ok I get what your saying with the manifold. I founda say that does custom Turbo set up using the DSM manifolds. I also found a Turbo manifold that are made with my series engines. I found out that my Manifold port is like 9 inches and the 94-97 are 11. I found out that tere is a Turbo manifold that are made to handle the t3 and t4 Turbos.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thataccright &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I've been reading all day. So much my elbow hurts from having on the computer stand for too long. Ok I get what your saying with the manifold. I founda say that does custom Turbo set up using the DSM manifolds. I also found a Turbo manifold that are made with my series engines. I found out that my Manifold port is like 9 inches and the 94-97 are 11. I found out that tere is a Turbo manifold that are made to handle the t3 and t4 Turbos.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for a cheap manifold you can use the 1st gen eclipse manifold, a little modification is necessary but it works
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Old May 27, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twistedbydezign &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

for a cheap manifold you can use the 1st gen eclipse manifold, a little modification is necessary but it works</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep...also check out http://www.homemadeturbo.com , there are a couple people that retrofitted dsm manifolds for the f22a engine .

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thataccright &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was wondering I have a 1993 hond accord LX with a F22A Engine stock. So I figure it pushes out about 125-130 horses. I know they make turbo' for the 1994 accord's which carries the f22a4, or f22a6. </TD></TR></TABLE>

False. The 94-97 accords use the f22b1 and the f22b2, the exhaust ports for the f22b are 0 00 0 where as the f22a are 0 0 0 0, so it wouldn't work.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brownjd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you probably have a lot of miles on that motor, so a rebuild would be a good idea first before turbo. what i would do though is swap in a h22a motor first. do a search for that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honestly, miles mean nothing...compression and leak down test is what is going to dictate the life of the motor. Granted a rebuild on the motor wouldn't be a bad idea, I'm just sayin .

I pieced together a turbo kit for my f22a about 6 months ago and it came out to around 600-700 bucks. This did not include IC piping or installation or dyno/tuning time. My kit included:

1gen dsm turbo manifold: $60
1gen dsm BOV: $30
1gen dsm SMIC: $30
dsm 450cc injectors: $35
SAFC: $200 (since its not a vtec motor , if it was go with a vafc)
t25 turbo (2gen dsm turbo): $120
Stainless oil feed and return lines: $40

I went with a 'hack' setup which basically allows more fuel to prevent detonation, you can opt to get a p13 (I think) ecu and chip it. A lot of people on homemadeturbo have rom burners and can do this for you...this is the safest way to run a turbo setup. With more searching and researching you will understand more about a turbo setup, which you should anyway.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Indeed, the DSM route is the way to go...and there have been a lot of people going that route, so if you're ready to tap into your ECU you can get one of their fuel maps if you're nice.
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Old May 28, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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Yeah I heard the DSM tend to crack but there so cheap you have tring to get another one. Besides the DSM way. I came up with a custom Turbo setup using the T3/T04B but that about 2,000 with fuel management, engine management, wastegate, blow off value, Turbo Manifold, Turbo Intercooler, T3/T04B Turbo. THis does not include the oil feed and return lines.
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Old May 28, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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So after the install and dyno testing how much improvment did you get out of the turbo. You know how many PSI your Turbo is pushing out or what your wastegate limit is?
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Old May 29, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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Ok a little bit more expensive but this is what I came up with.

F22 Turbo Manifold T3 / T4($399 w/o shipping)
(here is the link to see the manifold)http://www.f22parts.com/item_turbomanifold.htm
t3/t4 Turbo ($250)
BOV($50)
Fuel management system ($100)

anything else would I need to make this turbo complete or would this even work at all.

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