JDM H22 EG

its cranking but wont start.

got fuel
got spark
got compression (#1 210 #2 210 #3 225 #4 205)

now what....

 

got timing?

 

how do i check timing? i have no idea how to check timing

did you mean like ... adjust the cam gears to TDC?


Modified by SoOHiGH at 2:16 AM 5/27/2005

 

[QUOTE=SoOHiGH]JDM H22 EG

its cranking but wont start.

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Crazy idea but check the grounds, I had big problems with mine, my car wouldnt start!

 

i just put an h22a on my ek and it wouldn't start. make sure that all the vacums are set up correctly and i mean like with the sensors that the vacums need and stuff cause i was missing like 4.

 

just check the cam timing make sure that the t-belt isnt off by a tooth or 3....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just check the cam timing make sure that the t-belt isnt off by a tooth or 3....</TD></TR></TABLE>

i checked the cam gears and they wear both facing the same direction. looks like they are both TDC.

ill try and hook up the vacuum lines ... are you sure it could be the vacuum lines?

i thought the only thing that could make a engine run was sprak, fuel, compression, and timing.

 

you check your timing via the opening on the tranny housing, using the mark on the flywheel.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shakes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you check your timing via the opening on the tranny housing, using the mark on the flywheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the small opening or the opening on the bottom (where the dust cover goes)?

 

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the small opening or the opening on the bottom (where the dust cover goes)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the small opening up top by the block code.

 

hey Shakes i found 2 markings




which one do i line it up with?

and do i take off the timing belt? and line up the cams to TDC ?

 

check your firing order....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xv53 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your firing order....</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

you dont need to remove the T belt. Have a friend put a 19 mm socket on a long extension and rotate the crank till the arrows on the cam gears are pointing STRAIGHT UP to the sky. Sit and watch with a flashlight in that little flywheel view window. When your friend is dead on with the cam gears you should see the timing mark lined up in the window. yea and do check firing order.

34
12

is the order on the cap.

 

43
21 ?

not

34
12 ?

and i searched and H-T and got

34
12.

 

it is

34
12

and the cylinder on drivers side is number 1.

FIREWALL
4 3 2 1

 

so i had it right then.

 

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can someone confirm the markings on the flywheel.


i found 2 markings.

 

my flywheel has dots, not lines so i'm not sure, but i don't think you can check your timing at the flywheel if the engine is not running. There is a mark on the crank (behind the crank pulley) that lines up with a mark on the block to get your bottom end tdc. Pull the #1 spark plug and stick a long screw driver in to make sure #1 piston is TDC. With the valve cover off (so you can see the top of the cam gears) make sure that the arrows point up, and the hash marks line up in the middle. if it's off, slide the belt off on cam gear and have someone turn it while you hold the belt. then slide belt back on. The cams will fall into place when you get them close to tdc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IHateJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my flywheel has dots, not lines so i'm not sure, but i don't think you can check your timing at the flywheel if the engine is not running. There is a mark on the crank (behind the crank pulley) that lines up with a mark on the block to get your bottom end tdc. Pull the #1 spark plug and stick a long screw driver in to make sure #1 piston is TDC. With the valve cover off (so you can see the top of the cam gears) make sure that the arrows point up, and the hash marks line up in the middle. if it's off, slide the belt off on cam gear and have someone turn it while you hold the belt. then slide belt back on. The cams will fall into place when you get them close to tdc. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the #1 piston is the one closes to the timing belt right? when do you know when a piston is at TDC? when its all the way to the top?

so turn the crank till the piston is at the top then adjust the cam gears to TDC too right? is that waht your saying?

 

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the #1 piston is the one closes to the timing belt right? when do you know when a piston is at TDC? when its all the way to the top?
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Yep, driver's side is #1, passenger's side is #4. when cylinder 1 is at the top of its stroke, the bottom end is tdc. you may need to take off the crank pulley to make sure the marks line up perfectly, but the screwdriver in the sparkplug hole will get you close.

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so turn the crank till the piston is at the top then adjust the cam gears to TDC too right? is that waht your saying?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep. all you need is the #1 piston to be tdc when the cam gears are lined up properly and you have proper timing.

 

ill try that right now and see what happens.

 

the crank pulley is keyed. There is only 1 way to put it on and its always at "TDC".

Id advise against putting a screw driver in the number 1 cylinder as you may scratch something up. use a long ratchet extension instead. Its easier to do with a friend so you know when you are really dead on. pick up a helms it describes all this in detail.

 

did you check all the ground wires too?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98TypeSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the crank pulley is keyed. There is only 1 way to put it on and its always at "TDC".
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yes but it doesn't have any markings on it. the key is at the top, right where the mark on the gear is, but you can't line it up with the mark on the block because the pulley covers it up. that's why I suggested removing it, just to make sure it's right.