hey guys, i know its rare to see a turbo build DA but i was wondering what you guys have done, parts list, how you made everything fit, kit you went with, etc..

im thinkin about turboing my DA but i'd need a engine rebuild or a compression test will do if everything checks out, then throw in a b16 trans..

 

prob belongs in appearance

 

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its not really rare. you probably just hear of more DC turbo, but there is quite a few DA turbo cars. and if manufactuers actually make a turbo kit espicially for that application then its not gonna be rare.

 

i went homemade, did everything pretty cheap. using an internally wastegate t3 off a saab9000 i found in a junkyard. got it rebuilt.

bought some 90 steel bends, 2.5 inch radiator hose for couplers, ebay BOV, dsm 450cc injectors, walbro 255lph fuel pump, and a turbo edit basemap.

ill post some pics for you tonight after i get off work!

 

Dont put a B16 for turbo put an LS tranny

 

yah i agree.. especially if you're on a budget you dont need it.. it'll probably grind anyway..

 

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gotta love people spitting out common myths with nothing to back it up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djay86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i went homemade, did everything pretty cheap. using an internally wastegate t3 off a saab9000 i found in a junkyard. got it rebuilt.

bought some 90 steel bends, 2.5 inch radiator hose for couplers, ebay BOV, dsm 450cc injectors, walbro 255lph fuel pump, and a turbo edit basemap.

ill post some pics for you tonight after i get off work! </TD></TR></TABLE>


wow, yeah show me some pictures dude, that'd be nice to see what your setup is.

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someone explain why..

 

theres a big controversy about ls and b16 transmissions.

b16 have nice short gears. only problem is the 5th gear which is also short. im not sure which is the worst, i believe the s1- you're in 5th gear doing about 80-90 and you're at about 5000 RPM.

some people argue these short gears arent necessary for turboed cars. some people say the short gears has helped them. i have even read that a guy swapped b16 and ls transmissions and they made absolutely no difference in his ET's.

it has alot to do with the "feeling" of the car.


LS trannies are longer, especially 3rd gear, but if you're running boost who cares? IMO it kinda helps get traction and sling shots you.

many people actually swap the LS 5th gear into the b16 transmission so they can actually drive their car on the highway.

a tranny to find would be a 92-93 gsr ys1. its got short gears but better than the jdm b16 trannies.

if i had access to a decent priced jdm b16 transmission that i knew didnt grind, i'd probably buy it, dont get me wrong.

but if there's nothing wrong with your existing LS tranny just save the money for some other goodies.

 

i know my car is kinda a peice of ****.. im gonna get it painted this summer, and some other fun stuff.

dont mind the no bumper, havnt gotten around to cutting it yet. other things need to be fixed anyway so i'm just waiting.

i'm actually boosting that thing with 155k original miles heh. it seems to be running fine.


my semi ghetto setup consists of..

t3 turbo off an older 80's model saab9000. i believe its rated .42, .48 not sure though. i bought a rebuild kit off a saab performance site, and it seems to be fine.

internally wastegated turned all the way up . it runs at 10psi for a split second.

a manifold that a guy made on homemadeturbo.com, pretty nice peice.

downpipe consists of a volvo elbow peice, with 3 inch pipe welded to it. ehh

cheapturbolines oil lines

walbro 255lph fuel pump with DSM 450cc blue top injectors.

turboedit chipped ecu with a base map.

"monza" sequential blow off valve.. identical to the HKS

custom charge pipes made from jcwhitney 2.5 inch 90 bends.

2.5 inch radiator hose from napa for charge pipe couplers.

intercooler is pretty small, forget the measurements, i got it from "streetimports" for 179 bucks shipped..

aluminum radiator from streetimports. dont really like this radiator, i think its causing me coolant problems, so i ordered a OEM 92-00 civic replacement on ebay.

the car is running hella on the rich side..blowing alot of rich smoke. i need to take it to get tuned. a guy from homemadeturbo.com street tunes turboedit on a wideband. hes located in NJ if you're near by.


i still had to take it to the track and couldnt get better than 14.2 at 100 with 2.1 60 footers.


anything else you watn to know hit me up!





Modified by djay86 at 1:55 AM 5/27/2005

 

my friends old turbo b20vtec DA.....

not sure about the details of the turbo or cams or what not...but this chit was QUICK! The b20vtec build alone got him mid 13's. Never seen him time his car after he threw on the turb kit though....btw, this pic is about 2 years old now

 

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not sure about the details of the turbo or cams or what not...but this chit was QUICK! The b20vtec build alone got him mid 13's. Never seen him time his car after he threw on the turb kit though....btw, this pic is about 2 years old now
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now thats some hot ****... those volks on her?

 

they look like rota c10 w/polish lip

 

those rims looks like 17's...too big to be c10s

 

those wheels are Volk GTN's

 

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gotta love people spitting out common myths with nothing to back it up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

whats there to argue with? with a turbo engine, some people want longer gears, which is good for top end. but in my opinion, shorter gears are better for n/a cars.

 

I'll end the gearing part of this thread.

The right tranny is one that will keep you in your powerband the best. An LS tranny is perfect for low revving (relative to Honda's of course) LS engines, but a GSR or b16 tranny is perfect for the high hrevving engines. Now if you change your powerband, aka put a turbo on there, then your gearing will need to change for optimal power output to the wheels. Now a LS won't do, but neither will a B16. It would have to be custom made for the car actually.

The common saying "shorter is better" for gearing is not necessarily true for say stock LS engines. It all depends on where your powerband is and how you shift. This is EXACTLY why engine designers let the powerband fall at the end, because when you shift you will consistanly be at that peak of your powerband. I saw a site once where you could calculate exactly what gears you would need by looking at a dyno graph, but I don't feel like searching unless someone really really wants it . IMO, I'd stay with you stock tranny as long as your revlimit is stock. Once you change that along with the new powerband of a turbo, you may want to look into a different tranny to better keep you in the correct power band. .

BTW nice blue DA there.

 

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not sure about the details of the turbo or cams or what not...but this chit was QUICK! The b20vtec build alone got him mid 13's. Never seen him time his car after he threw on the turb kit though....btw, this pic is about 2 years old now
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you must get more pictures of that DA, its beautiful!

 

Hey iH8ricerz...is that Henry's old car?

 

here's my turbo daily driven DA9...63/.60 57trim,lovefab shorty,tial 38mm,cca 31x8x2.75,blitz bov,dsm 450cc,walbro 255lph,e-cut out,plx m300,TurboEdit,and EcuControl...all worked done by me ...

 

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YUP! Thats when him and Johnny owned Crazy Fast in Fremont. I talked to Johnny the other day....he has himself a BLING'N Black NSX! as for Hen, I have no clue which car(s) he's driving now.

And for the rim questions, he had itr 5 lug on there with with real deal 17" volk GTN's.

and sorry, this is the other only pic I have of this car...like i said, this was about 2 years ago!

 

Sorry for the stupid question but I keep seeing DA but no mention of what it means. What does DA mean?

 

Its the chassis code for 90-93 integras and call them DA for short.

 

i have a boosted da . its a small t3 .42/.48, homemade mani, homemade downpipe it dumps right in front of the drivers tire, homemade dumptube, external tial wastegate, homemde chargepipes 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 , dsm 450cc , dsm bov, pwr i/c , 8lb flywheel, b&m fpr, b16 head on ls block , itr cams, skunk2 cam gears, skunk2 intakemani, tune with crome

 

turbo da teggys