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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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This is going into a 4th gen prelude. My main goal was great SQ for the price. I am not concerned with competing, so sheer SPL is of no interest to me. Here is what I bought:

Head: Alpine CDA-9855 w/iPod Link http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...80810

Front: Infinity Rerence 6.5 Components 6010CS http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...er=REF&Cat=COS

Rear: Infinity Reference 6.5 2-way 6012I http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...er=REF&Cat=MEL

Main Amp: Infinity Reference 4-Channel 7541A [URL] http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...t=AMP[/URL]

Subwoofer: JL 10W7 http://jlaudio.com/subwoofers/w7.html

Sub Amp: JL 500/1 http://jlaudio.com/amps/5001.html

Capacitor: Tsunami 2-Farad Capacitor http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm...il.do

Dynamat: trunk, doors, license plate

Did I do OK? Is there anything I should change without spending more $$?

This is my first complete system, and I hope I am doing it right. Any comments feedback or suggestions would be very appreciated.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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ok, i don't know what happened to the links, but whatever. If anyone is interested, the addresses listed are correct.

I would love some feedback before I start my install. (Which I absolutely can't wait to do)
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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Wow. Seems like you did a great job picking out your components. Everything you chose matches very well with each other. With that setup you should expect some VERY GOOD results in the Sq department. All of course after a good tune. Have fun learning the decks capabilities. I am going to purhase that deck shortly. Let me know how it works out.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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dont listen to spy, he is an idiot. in some way, he is spreading misinformation.

for s first system, it is nice.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93vtec ATL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is going into a 4th gen prelude. My main goal was great SQ for the price. I am not concerned with competing, so sheer SPL is of no interest to me. Here is what I bought:

Head: Alpine CDA-9855 w/iPod Link http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...80810

Front: Infinity Rerence 6.5 Components 6010CS http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...er=REF&Cat=COS

Rear: Infinity Reference 6.5 2-way 6012I http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...er=REF&Cat=MEL

Main Amp: Infinity Reference 4-Channel 7541A [URL] http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...t=AMP[/URL]

Subwoofer: JL 10W7 http://jlaudio.com/subwoofers/w7.html

Sub Amp: JL 500/1 http://jlaudio.com/amps/5001.html

Capacitor: Tsunami 2-Farad Capacitor http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm...il.do

Dynamat: trunk, doors, license plate

Did I do OK? Is there anything I should change without spending more $$?

This is my first complete system, and I hope I am doing it right. Any comments feedback or suggestions would be very appreciated.
</TD></TR></TABLE> The only thing I would change is the rear speakers, [to mid range/mid bass drivers] or just disconnect the tweeters, it will help a lot in staging the system, as for the rest of it, it's all good, and you are using an Alpine HU, hard to beat that. 94
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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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I have the same infinity component speakers. They are good, but not great. The highes are overpowering, and if you turn down treble the midrange sounds funny.

The W7 is an excellent sub. You will do some pounding if you put enough juice behind it, but the infinities will give out long before the sub does.
For an everyday drive back and forth with the windows down system. It works.

Personally I would have bought a Dead Head.

For a first real system id give ya 4 out of 5 stars.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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I just finished installing it all, did some tuning, and drove around a bit.

I am very pleased with the sub, once I got it set up right it was very clean, and more than loud enough for me.

I like the head unit over-all, it is loaded with features, the preamps sound good, and the iPod compatibility is great. It also looks good, which never hurts. The menus are very awkward though, some of the buttons have unintuitive secondary features that I would probably never have figured out without the manual. Adjusting the eq is a royal pain, but I am glad it allows me to really fine-tune it. It also allows me to save more eq presets than I will probably need, so I'll go through the hassle once or twice and never have to worry about it again.

The only real gripe I have is like Lildrgn said. The highs are extremely overpowering. When the volume is at about 15/40, I can hardly stand it. Hopefully, I will be able to get that eq adjusted a little better and take care of it.

I have already made like 4 unnecessary trips out just so I could listen to the stereo some more, and I can already feel another coming on right now. Thanks for the comments, guys.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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oh, one more thing. I am trying to secure my sub box to the trunk because it has been sliding around quite a bit. I had been thinking about using L-brackets, but because the box is sitting on the false floor above the spare tire well, I don't how how easy it will be to mount the brackets to that flimsy material. I would also like to mount it in a way that could be taken off without too much work in case I need to get to the amps and stuff.

I am really at a loss for ideas, I am almost thinking about just going out and buying some velcro for the bottom of the box. Any more ideas?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spyz34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow. Seems like you did a great job picking out your components. Everything you chose matches very well with each other. With that setup you should expect some VERY GOOD results in the Sq department. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATF Kuk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont listen to spy, he is an idiot. in some way, he is spreading misinformation.

for s first system, it is nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And who the **** are you? How am I spreading misinformation. . You praise Audiobahn as the greatest thing ever. Yet I'm the idiot.

"what is an IDmax, sounds like crap, Audiobahn for lyfe!!!. Audiobahn is the ****. they got their name from "autobahn". where all the best and fastest cars drive on, audiobahn offers nothing but the best and most accurate subs"-ATF Kuk


I simply told this guy what his system would do for him without stupid comments such as yours Who died and made you Car Audio Goddes?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93vtec ATL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh, one more thing. I am trying to secure my sub box to the trunk because it has been sliding around quite a bit. I had been thinking about using L-brackets, but because the box is sitting on the false floor above the spare tire well, I don't how how easy it will be to mount the brackets to that flimsy material. I would also like to mount it in a way that could be taken off without too much work in case I need to get to the amps and stuff.

I am really at a loss for ideas, I am almost thinking about just going out and buying some velcro for the bottom of the box. Any more ideas?</TD></TR></TABLE>

L backets would work, you could use wing nuts for easy removal......
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Old May 27, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spyz34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And who the **** are you? How am I spreading misinformation. . You praise Audiobahn as the greatest thing ever. Yet I'm the idiot.

"what is an IDmax, sounds like crap, Audiobahn for lyfe!!!. Audiobahn is the ****. they got their name from "autobahn". where all the best and fastest cars drive on, audiobahn offers nothing but the best and most accurate subs"-ATF Kuk


I simply told this guy what his system would do for him without stupid comments such as yours Who died and made you Car Audio Goddes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA i am getting a kick out of this.

but seriously, how is he getting good sq from that setup? it is misinformation when you say he is getting good sq. what is good sq to you anyway. no amp for the speakers is good SQ? you idiot. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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Old May 27, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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The infinity component crossovers have an option for hooking up the tweeters that will drop their output by 3dB. Not a lot but it will help tone them down some. I think the alpine deck also has alot to do with the highs as they always seem to increase the highs on nearly any system. Personally I'd love your setup as I'm the type that like highs that scream
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Old May 27, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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audiobahns suck garbage ***, i had 1200q's , they were nice subs, but when i get my 2 L5's ( had 2 W3's before my audiobahns) and they smoked the audiobahns out of the water

eclipse, JL, kicker

audiobahn is still decent, but deffiantly doesnt deserve to get mentioned with the above
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA i am getting a kick out of this.

but seriously, how is he getting good sq from that setup? it is misinformation when you say he is getting good sq. what is good sq to you anyway. no amp for the speakers is good SQ? you idiot. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey genious. He has an Infinity 4 chan amp to push his speakers. This isn't competition **** now is it. For the average person the setup he has is more than enough to qualify for a good SQ setup. IF you know so much about the all important SQ Setup, then what do you have that blows all of his stuff away? Eh, Ace?
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Old May 28, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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i think good SQ is good SQ, there is no good SQ for consumer A and then good SQ for consumer B. what happens when you compare A/B? A is no longer good SQ anymore? you are an idiot, just accept it.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93vtec ATL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh, one more thing. I am trying to secure my sub box to the trunk because it has been sliding around quite a bit. I had been thinking about using L-brackets, but because the box is sitting on the false floor above the spare tire well, I don't how how easy it will be to mount the brackets to that flimsy material. I would also like to mount it in a way that could be taken off without too much work in case I need to get to the amps and stuff.

I am really at a loss for ideas, I am almost thinking about just going out and buying some velcro for the bottom of the box. Any more ideas?</TD></TR></TABLE> While the kids fight, I'll tell you what we do at our shop, get a pc of MDF 1"x2"x long enough to fit between the shock towers, [you will have to get the carpet and spare tire well cover out of the way] place the box in the trunk where you want it to sit, place the MDF "strip" in front of the box, [front of car] depending how far up you want the box to be, most of the MDF "strip" should be sitting on the floor pan, maybe some of it is over the spare tire well, that's ok, as long as there is a few inch's on both ends sitting on the floor pan, if where the "strip" sits is not flat, sand/grind away, notch or cut some of the MDF away, so the "strip" sits flat and makes as much contact with the floor pan as possible, [we just use a belt sander] go to the hardware store and get a tube of LaPages ultra grip 1000 sub floor adhesive, cover the part of the MDF that is in contact with the floor with 2 or 3 "beads, [fat ones] put "strip" in place, pushing down, so adhesive spreads, lift up 1 or 2 inch's, [so air can get at the adhesive] then set in place, don't let it move for 1 hr, after 24 hrs, it's part of the car, install a pr. of marine "latch downs" on the box and the "strip" you can even get "latch downs" with a lock, box won't move and its an easy out when you need to, and no holes in the floor pan, that will just strip out and start rusting anyway 94
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Old May 28, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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oh come on fcm, dont you find it a lil amusing? i am just adding a lil fuel to the almost dead flame here at the audio section of H-T.

one more thing, youre a post *****.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATF Kuk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think good SQ is good SQ, there is no good SQ for consumer A and then good SQ for consumer B. what happens when you compare A/B? A is no longer good SQ anymore? you are an idiot, just accept it.

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actuall there is. What one person may like, another does not. I know my brother's acoustical taste is flat, with not very many hights at all. I, on the other hand, love the highs. My "SQ" system would not match his "SQ" system at all. Some people also like sharp highs, while some like softer highs. Also customer A may listen to one type of music, whereas customer B may listen to another. What sounds good to customer A with jazz, may not sound good to customer B with his goth or whatever. So SQ is totally judgemental and up to the individual end user.

That's one reason I hate the two local audio shows hosted here by "Pual & Tony's Stereo". One year my friend one it with his Sony 7" flip out screen, alpine 4 channel amp and two sets of type R components. The next comp rolls around about two months later, he had the same setup, was up against the same kids pretty much.. and the guy who one this next one had the exact same setup as before. I know both kids, neither changed anything or any settings.

Granted if you measured out the output from a completely base sony line to a MB Quartz or something, yes the MB Quartz would be better, but to the end user maybe the sony is a nicer sound.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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That sounds like a good setup on paper. Now it all depends on your settings. I am a big fan of the infinity speakers. Had them in all my cars and they sounds amazing.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

actuall there is. What one person may like, another does not. I know my brother's acoustical taste is flat, with not very many hights at all. I, on the other hand, love the highs. My "SQ" system would not match his "SQ" system at all. Some people also like sharp highs, while some like softer highs. Also customer A may listen to one type of music, whereas customer B may listen to another. What sounds good to customer A with jazz, may not sound good to customer B with his goth or whatever. So SQ is totally judgemental and up to the individual end user.

That's one reason I hate the two local audio shows hosted here by "Pual & Tony's Stereo". One year my friend one it with his Sony 7" flip out screen, alpine 4 channel amp and two sets of type R components. The next comp rolls around about two months later, he had the same setup, was up against the same kids pretty much.. and the guy who one this next one had the exact same setup as before. I know both kids, neither changed anything or any settings.

Granted if you measured out the output from a completely base sony line to a MB Quartz or something, yes the MB Quartz would be better, but to the end user maybe the sony is a nicer sound.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 29, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Have you played w/ the Time alignment on that HU? I'm interested in a head unit w/ that option for my 95.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

actuall there is. What one person may like, another does not. I know my brother's acoustical taste is flat, with not very many hights at all. I, on the other hand, love the highs. My "SQ" system would not match his "SQ" system at all. Some people also like sharp highs, while some like softer highs. Also customer A may listen to one type of music, whereas customer B may listen to another. What sounds good to customer A with jazz, may not sound good to customer B with his goth or whatever. So SQ is totally judgemental and up to the individual end user.

That's one reason I hate the two local audio shows hosted here by "Pual & Tony's Stereo". One year my friend one it with his Sony 7" flip out screen, alpine 4 channel amp and two sets of type R components. The next comp rolls around about two months later, he had the same setup, was up against the same kids pretty much.. and the guy who one this next one had the exact same setup as before. I know both kids, neither changed anything or any settings.

Granted if you measured out the output from a completely base sony line to a MB Quartz or something, yes the MB Quartz would be better, but to the end user maybe the sony is a nicer sound.</TD></TR></TABLE>

man you are an idiot too. define good SQ. you will find that you are mainly talking about preference. you are not talking about Sound Quality.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M@ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you played w/ the Time alignment on that HU? I'm interested in a head unit w/ that option for my 95.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it allows you to adjust the delay of each of the 4 main speakers and the sub independently. You either enter the delay directly in ms or you enter the positions of the speakers in cm or in.

It also allows you to change the phase for the sub, adjust the crossovers with several different slopes in dBs and really fine tune the EQ, including selecting the specific cutoff frequencies between the different bands to be controlled.

It really gives me the ability to control just about anything I could want to. Some of the controls are a little redundant from those on my amplifiers, but in general, the added controls have all been useful.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:43 AM
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man you are an idiot too. define good SQ. you will find that you are mainly talking about preference. you are not talking about Sound Quality.
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Shut it!

He is not entering comp. For everyday driving the system is perfect. If you would have done things different, thats fine. Hell, I would have done things different. But I also have the common respect for some one to do what they want with their car. The stuff he bought is not bottom of the line and with the money he spent, it is actually a good system. And by the way, a perfect flat sq for comp, sounds like ****. Having been in several and judged several, a flat curve sounds like ***.

So either voice your opinion with out being an ******* or just shut it entirely.

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