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Old May 25, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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im hoping some one in this forum can set me in the right direction. i was originally going to do the kswap, but decided to stay bseries and a turbo. what do i need to do to achieve about 300-350WHP and what size turbo to go with? so far the plan is to sleeve a b18c block with golden eagle sleeves... thats pretty much all i have planned so far. TIA
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Old May 25, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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You could keep the stock sleeves and just get some pistons and rods with a bigger turbo like a GT35 turbo. That should exceed your power you want.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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your goals are set low for a sleeved block...
if your plans are 350 max--
i recommend and sc34 turbo
3 inch exhaust
550s/720s
engine mamangement would be the key

sleeving the block will not be needed at that power level

(you will obvisouly need a lot of misc stuff, fmic/piping/lines/fuel pump etc...)
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 12SEC CIV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your goals are set low for a sleeved block...
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Agreed. If you are going to spend the money on a sleeved block you should shoot for more than 350. Stock sleeves can handle that kind of power easily.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Agreed. If you are going to spend the money on a sleeved block you should shoot for more than 350. Stock sleeves can handle that kind of power easily.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 25, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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wow i didnt know stock sleeves could handle that much. regardless im sleeving the block. maybe 400 then. anyhow whats the best compression to have and what are the best turbo trims for my goals? thanks for the input guys
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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i'm plannin on making 300 hp on my setup at around 10 or 11 psi. tuning is key. . check my sig for info on my setup.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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i made 310whp @ 13lbs of boost on an SC50, all thats done to my motor is je pistons (9:1 CR) and eagle rods. i just bought an SC61 and im shooting for over 400whp once everything is done...
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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by imola-red dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow i didnt know stock sleeves could handle that much. regardless im sleeving the block. maybe 400 then. anyhow whats the best compression to have and what are the best turbo trims for my goals? thanks for the input guys </TD></TR></TABLE>

9:1 compression and a T3/TO4E 57-trim on stock sleeves and spend money on a good tune.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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ok im bringing this up and i need some help figuring out the turbo part. my new current setup is:

benson sleeved 83mm gsr block
eagle rods
cp 83mm 9.1 compression
acl bearings
stock gsr crank
moroso oil pan
itr head and itr cams
supertech valvesprings
supertech retainers

what turbo would you go with? gt28R or gt30R ? looking to make 300-400 daily driven.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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gt28R is going to max out at 400 and some change, go with a gt30R.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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the key is math. a gt2871 should make you happy. in the FAQ is the link for reading maps. check them out and then you will know your getting the right turbo. i didn't notice did some one tell you yo don't need sleeves?
here is the link for how to read maps https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=142398
here is the link for the garrett maps http://www.turbobygarrett.com/....html
like everyone said keep a good tune and keep an eye on the clearances when you do the build. good luck!!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Im going for 300whp here pretty soon. Ive got an sc34 .63. Im aiming for that much on 11 psi or so, hopefully ill make it. Im going with 440cc's though, they max around 330 whp says jeff(boosted hybrid).

Log manifold
38mm wastegate
2.5 intercooler piping
JRC 8"

complete stock block b18c
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Riake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im going for 300whp here pretty soon. ..... Im going with 440cc's though, they max around 330 whp</TD></TR></TABLE>
My DSM 450s were at 100% duty cycle on a few of my final pulls-- you might want to go a little bigger just to be safe. Injectors usually dont like to be above 80%
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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328whp here with a completley stock B18b engine here. 16PSI all day long.

I don't expect this setup to last 3 years but it should last for a good 2 years
(already have 20k boosted miles on it). You can make your goals of 300ish whp with stock b18c bloc, but if you want it super safe and reliable just get some 9.0:1 compression pistons (any manufactuer) some Golden Eagle Rods and you'll be set for 400+whp depending on turbo selection and other things. Remember over 300whp you will have traction issues unless you run some nice Drag Radials all day
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboCoop &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My DSM 450s were at 100% duty cycle on a few of my final pulls-- you might want to go a little bigger just to be safe. Injectors usually dont like to be above 80% </TD></TR></TABLE>

How much power were you putting down? What was your fuel pressure, and are you sure your DSM were correctly flowing that much?

I would like to go bigger, and I would if there was no price difference between the 440 and 550. I am eager to get done though, so we will see how much is attainable on my 440's. Thanks for the insight though
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Default Re: questions on turbo setup to get 300whp. (imola-red dc2)

if u gonna put pistons and rods in....i would just go ahead and sleeve it just my .02
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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yeah.... i think ive decided to go with a gt28r unless i can get a gt30r used for a good price. i dont think i will want more then 400whp due to the traction issues.

yeah reason i sleeved it, is because i just want the little insurance and do it right all at once.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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i really think you would be happier with the gt2871r http://www.turbobygarrett.com/...2.htmit will cover 300-450hp you would need the .86ar. good luck
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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thanks for info.. ill look into that right now... anyone know if its interanally gated?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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yeah it is, i have one they make nice tq curves or maybe i should say lines. you can get them with a t3 turbine housing. its easier to get manifolds in t3.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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so i was checking out atpturbo.com and i think i found the turbo that im pretty intersted in purchasing. just want to get general idea if it would work out best for me.

gt2871r (.86r) with a larger compressor housing to4e and 4in inlet.

what do you guys thing?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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why not consider getting a SC61 or a t3/60-1. unless price doesn't matter to you? you might want to go with a S compressor housing instead of an E. make some room to expand in the future eh?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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i think im really comfortable with the gt28 and the goals that im setting for the motor. i dont think id really want more then 400whp on a daily driven car. just no traction... thanks for mentioning another option.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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well what would you guys dooo? i really want the gt28 but it goes for 1200 new. i have a few gt30r new for under a 1k on here. what would you do? damn... so confusing.
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