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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Ok first off this is going to be a long project. Dont even have a car yet. But this will go into a crx.

This is just the photos of some shoots of of bottom of the block build up.

Very very breif explanation.

B18B (kept it 81mm)
PCT pistons
Crower 405a cams with all crower valvetrain.
For know a stock head for smogging purposes.

I will give more explanation as I precced

Block back from honing and slight mill at Bensons her in Cali



A little rust likes my cylinders. WD40 haaallaa.



Micropolished and Balanced
Crank in and it turns like BUTTER. Everything cam out to spec (end play and all bearings), sorry for not showing the plastiguage process its hard when your in the mist of doing this crap with your greasy *** hands.




Ahhh the pistons, we have PCT on ls rods with ARP bolts and of course balanced.




I think it a little on the high side but Bensons has been in business for 25 years and is know in the racing industry. My friends block, ls turbo he did, is running after 7 years boosting 9 pounds so...



Then the old stock ls head. Can we all say BLING BLING. I went to the store and the can said aluminum but ....





This is the first edition peeps. By this weekend I will have put the pistons in, oil pump, water pump, and rear main seal. I will try to document as much as possible.

I did not explain ever single thing so dont say I forgot to do this and that.

Hope you enjoy.[/img] :D ..


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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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UPDATE:


Main Seal


ITR oil pump on.


LOOK AT THOSE SLOPS. LETS GO BOARDING.










Well thats all folks for the main part of the bottom end. I have to put it back on the engine stand to a more secure position. The thing turns like butter and feels good.

Till next episode.

Enjoy
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Couple more..
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Looking good. I think that's cool that you added a pic of the machine shop costs.

The price varies from place to place but thats the jist of it.

I think not knowing the price of how much machine shop work costs (or the fear of being ripped off) sometimes discourages people from taking their **** to the machine shop and doing it right!
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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is ur car automatic or manual?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMLEROY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is ur car automatic or manual?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I dont even have a car to put it in yet. I'm really hoping for a crx but here in cali they are hard to come by. Or i might get a 88-91 hatch. I want a car that hasnt been molested, straight body, Ok if shell but has to have some components.

To answer your question its going to be STICK of course.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Unless you mill the head and get a good P&P, you need to sell the 405A's and run 404's. Trust Me Bigger is not better in this case!!
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Looks nice, amazing how quick cylinders will rust with no oil on them.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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oking good
but i'm preatty sure it wont get near 200whp 180 is more realistic


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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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you can get a crank balanced and polished? hmm i dint know that
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oking good
but i'm preatty sure it wont get near 200whp 180 is more realistic


Modified by riceball777 at 4:54 AM 5/26/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well see wont we.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcter g &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you mill the head and get a good P&P, you need to sell the 405A's and run 404's. Trust Me Bigger is not better in this case!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can not mill the head with the 405a's because of piston to valve clearances issues. I like my compression with stock head gasket anyways. I believe it will be 12.4 which is just about with the 405a's.

I was wondering what size throttle body and injectors to run with this setup.

A 64mm or 70mm?. And what size injectors?

Thanks
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Old May 25, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oking good
but i'm preatty sure it wont get near 200whp 180 is more realistic


Modified by riceball777 at 4:54 AM 5/26/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>


I just want to see if he can do it without a lot of machine work!
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Old May 25, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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67mm tb
RC310cc or 370's
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Old May 26, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM JEFFREY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">67mm tb
RC310cc or 370's</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why a 67mm Tb instead of a simple easy to find 68mm TB?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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i'd personally run with the RC 370's. you cant go wrong with those.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by volcom40street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can not mill the head with the 405a's because of piston to valve clearances issues. I like my compression with stock head gasket anyways. I believe it will be 12.4 which is just about with the 405a's.
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Ha! Ha! Ha!.................You dont have a clue. You either cant read or you just dont read. cant mill with CTR's, stock head, enough compression, keep em coming I cant quit laughing.......

I was trying to help!


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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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With CTR's and 404's I had over .200" easy. Just clay it and you will see. I do hope you have an awesome power making monster. We will see. Good Luck!
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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Ricky from Mid Atlantic Motorsports runs 13.0:1 static on his B20 with 405's(the bigger, older version with .502" of lift). Now he runs the Crane #20's.


CTR's and 405's in an LS(no mill, stock HG) yields 12.4:1 static CR, which equals out to be 11.2:1 dynamic CR.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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where in CA is bensons located?..and nice setup
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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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wuts the difference b/t static and dynamic CR? like when u lookin at magazines that mention CR, which one do they usually refer to? also, i bought some 11.5 JE pistons but according to http://www.zealautowerks.com/ i only get 10.43 on my B16. wuts up with that?
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Old May 27, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Your cylinders are numbered backwards and your head is bling-bling.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcter g &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your cylinders are numbered backwards and your head is bling-bling. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I know, it was just for micing to make sure I had the right rings and bearings for each cylinder.

So... hows your engine coming.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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looks good.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wasabithegosu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wuts the difference b/t static and dynamic CR? like when u lookin at magazines that mention CR, which one do they usually refer to? also, i bought some 11.5 JE pistons but according to http://www.zealautowerks.com/ i only get 10.43 on my B16. wuts up with that? </TD></TR></TABLE>


Magazines and everyone always refer to Static compression, which doesnt mean jack ****!

Dynamic compression is your actual effective compression measurement for your engine with all the components you have chosen to use internally. Most ppl think pistons determine your compression numbers, but that isnt true. You have to look at other factors that come into play.
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