I am thinking of going with a vtec head swap on my turbo b20 is it worth it and does anyone have a simular build with actual hp numbers. And last what should be the total price? without labor. But with the price of the head, I am not looking for an exact price just ball park. Thanks

 

hey man, yes it is worth it. check inlinefour.com they have a kit that will help u. they are affordable so dont worry too much.

 

So you are actually planning to run CR/Vtec, not LS/Vtec? B20 VTEC packs alot of torque. Build it right and it won't dissappoint.

 

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The only thing that I really don't like is a guy who use to dyno tune for rage told me that if I used any other cams other than stock Ie turbo cams that I would bend a valve for sure but other then that he said stock and tuned I could end up seeing a 50 hp increase since I am untuned and turbo anyways but I just want to see real numbers. Also If I go with a b16 head do I need to replace the oil pump and water with an itr or no.

 

personally i dont think it is worth it, i mean i got a GSR but i would think u'd b better of goin turbo than vtec

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turboredteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only thing that I really don't like is a guy who use to dyno tune for rage told me that if I used any other cams other than stock Ie turbo cams that I would bend a valve for sure but other then that he said stock and tuned I could end up seeing a 50 hp increase since I am untuned and turbo anyways but I just want to see real numbers. Also If I go with a b16 head do I need to replace the oil pump and water with an itr or no.</TD></TR></TABLE> You'll need to cut down on the valve reliefs so you don't bend any valves. I wouldn't put the vtec head if i were you. I mean you already have the turbo to deal with, why have something else on top of that? Probably invest in a p&p job or something. And if you were to do the vtec head, you'd have to cut down the valve reliefs, arp rod bolts, itr water pump, etc. You might as well just built another motor on the side and fully build it then swap it in if you go vtec and use your turbo setup on top of that. But if you're just trying to find something to go faster, invest in fuel management and get your **** tuned first.

 

it's worth it

 

I think you should just keep your turbo b20. I bet its plenty powerful and runs great. I would do something like a good p&p to give you more power then to throw a vtec head on it.

 

Yeah it gets on it but I am a ex muscle car I mean real muscle all motor 320 with a 200 shot so my current set up well it sucks I mean its nice but when it comes down to it I need some other stuff. How much would you guys pay for a mild p&p? I already have some jg 301 laying in my closet. I also talked to my friend at a local shop J&J perf. and he said with the money I would spend on the head and oil line + ecu he could put some pistons in. I was almost set on the head but now I just don't know. I am going to get it tuned but before I chip my ecu I want to make sure where I am going also.

 

it depends if you do it right or not the first time. If you do a lot of research and make the right choices it will pay off and you will be really satisfied. But if you rush into things without a complete understanding of what you are doing, you will spend a lot of money and might not get the results you hoped for.

 

Well i am not to familar with the b20, and i think i read they don't handle boost to well. but like I said im not familar with them. If you can and are looking for some really power, build the bottom end to handle a good 12-15lbs of boost. With that much boost, you will forget what a muscle car felt like. Plus you will get better results then just throwing a vtec head on your b20 block.

 

coming from a b16 with si and gsr tranny... now my new dc has Ls/vtec.. I love the toruqe even with the ls tranny its pretty strong, now if i throw a si tranny on there Mmmm

 

I just don't want to spend the 1500+ for pistons I know they are only $450-600 but buy the time I buy everything like gaskets and pay for the work It will be alot. where as I am pretty confident that I can handle the head swap but I can't handle the honing or assembly of the bottom end if I could and I had the knowledge to do the pistons I would do it for sure. I am really lookin for some more power without a high price. I am going to get tuned like I said but I also just don't want to tune a non vtec ecu and then want to go vtec. thats why I haven't tuned it yet. And if anyone knows of a good shop in socal 909 area that does work at a reasonable price let me know

 

i think it's worth it... i blew my LS motor, then decided to to for LS/Vtec since i was gonna have to rebuild anyways...

 

have you done it yet?

 

they call it frankenstien its mad honda power

 

longer stroke and added HP hell yea its worth every penny............
V-tec is the way to go ......go luck with your worthy money

 

i think its worth it. i have ls/vtec turbo. not built too much. aries pistons, crower rods, valves, valve springs, retainers, stock cams, and some fuel upgrades. for what it is it hauls ***. but anyways yeah vtec gives a good kick with turbo.

 

It really think it is worth having LS/Vtec. The turbo will love the extra flow when vtec is engaged and you will too. It really comes down to the build in mho. If done right, it will last. If you want to keep boost levels at a conservative psi, like around 5-6, you should be okay with stock internals. If you plan the build and tune it right, I know you will be happy with the results. Don't rush things when it comes to to puting a vtec head on the LS block. In the end it will be your choice, but take it from someone who has been boosting with an ls/vtec for 4 yrs, its worth it if done right the 1st time.

~Eddie

 

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Everything that was done to my Integra was done at Rage Performance, (5spd swap, clutch/flywheel, head gasket + studs, turbo kit etc.) I give a big to those guys. They know what they're doing and they don't half *** their cars. Yeah, they are a bit expensive, but I'd rather shell out a little extra cash for a full guranteed job then a half *** job. If your looking for a different shop then Rage, I'd try Proto Perfromance in Riverside. My friend had a few things done there, not internal wise though. They do sell quite a bit of cars on autotrader (old 240's with SR20DE-T swaps). If your not looking in Riverside, then there's a shop that just started in Moreno Valley, but I forget the name. Good luck!

 

lsv i like.... i think its worth it... vtec man..

 

how much can I expect to spend after everything is said and done. with the head all needed lines dowel pins oil pump water pump I mean everything. Thats another question that I have everyone is telling me that golden eagles kit sucks. and someting about the dowel pins being wrong I really don't know. I like the thought of the kit personaly, cause it takes out all of the guess work and its cheap

 

WORTH IT? = time, money spent, knowledge of builder, cams, tuning


I JUST finished my mild LSVtec. Was it worth waiting, the money I spent, the tuning, the research, and the learning experience?

[B]HELL YES[B] even with a LS trans it's was worth it.

Take your time, do your research, and do it RIGHT.

 

i am building an ls vtec turbo rite now... still been at it for 3 months now
eagle rods cp pistons mirco polished and balanced crank b16 head...Lots of cash lots of time.. all im waiting for is my clutch to come in and i can throw it in... Hopefully it was worth all the time and money