Anyone and everyone chime in as you may.




mod list as follows
b16 head
type r intake valves
buddy club spec 3+ cams
omni power springs and retainers
milled head by about .01
all new gaskets and seals
aebs intake mani
hondata intake mani gasket
stock throttle body, bored over to about 64mm
new oe head bolts
b18b1 block
bored oer.02
srp 11.3:1 pistons(should be closer to 11.7 or so now)
eagle h-beams
stock polished crank
z10 girdle
vtec oil pump
vtec water pump
new timing belt and tensioner
gs-r oil pan
gs-r main studs
gs-r windage
gs-r pickup
act hdss
exedy 9lb fly
all managed by hondata in a p28
tuned by motorvations in trussville
thanks for reading and looking, tell me what chya think.

 

why not stock oem rods and pistons?

 

Looking good..
Piece of advice though, tune that engine good before beating on it..SRP pistons melt like candle wax if theres any detonation at all..

 

Nice setup, and it looks great in the bedroom. I have been debating on whether I want an engine stand or not, looks like you did just fine without one.

 

no stock rods and pistons because i dont like not being able to assembyl my own rods and pistons, i dont have a press and dont want to pay someone to press them taking a chance at flat spotting them. Also, i dont LIKE to mill heads, but if it needs it, like in my case, i will do it, but i dont think there is a chance for me to get the comp ratio i wanted out of stock pistons. Rods, i once again dont like the press fitting idea that honda has. This motor is not built for 3 or 4 hundred thousand mile reliability, so why would I is the question??

Tbone, thanks for the pointer, I have a basemap with me and i got him to set that redline to about 5k...I dont trust my self to tell you the truth. I need something that will keep me out of the gas mechanically... I get kind of crazy when it comes to the last bit that seems so minute but is the most important part. I am just gonna drive it around for about a week until fully tuned on dyno and street. Then i am gonna break it in like it should be.
Sam, i have an engine stand, but remember my crank is still not in nore are my mains, so my motor isnt too heavy yet. I just assymbled all of this on my work bench and carried it inside. I know Im ghetto, but i really didnt feel like putting it on an engine stand.

 

Looks good. At least you're not building this in youir basement.

 

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if you like to assembly your own rods then thats a good reason and understandable. but if you have a reputable machine shop press the pistons on then there is nothing to worry about.

p30's are very well designed and the rings last longer than aftermarket pistons. also you can get a 11.7:1 range compression ration with the p30's.

i wasnt making a negative comment, just curious.

 

I am very intrested to see this dyno....IMO the compression/valve/camshaft choice is excellent. I bet this thing is gonna have some FATTY mid range. Imma say peak is around 7,800....thats gonna be a nasty daily street motor

 

sorry to come off the wrong way envision, i see that you do have a point there, and maybe next time will be a all oe build other than cams, nice pointers there. Clean rice, i am hoping for exactly what you just said, i want a fun *** motor to run. I dont like just top end and i dont like bottom end, neither one are good DRIVING ranges for daily, where as the mid is perfect. I will be sure to post up numbers here...

 

Nice engine, truly.

BUT.... Dont be expecting to get the "3-4 hundred thousand mile" reliablity as you suggested above. I would be quite suprised to see this engine or any with similar mods go passed the 100k mile mark. It honestly hardly ever happens. The most reliable b-series your ever going to see is a stock B16A that was never opened, driven lightly and maintained per honda maintenance schedules with factory fluids and components.

 

thanks, I just wanna hit 13's so maybe i can do eeettttt.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you like to assembly your own rods then thats a good reason and understandable. but if you have a reputable machine shop press the pistons on then there is nothing to worry about.

p30's are very well designed and the rings last longer than aftermarket pistons. also you can get a 11.7:1 range compression ration with the p30's.

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NEVER press in a piston pin. Always heat the small end of the rod and slide it in. Pressing it in can distort the piston and bend the rod.

 

and so pressing it out can do the same, correct??? This is no good in my book.

 

That it can.

 

anyhow any other suggestions from the people who do this alot

 

old thread, but i guess i should update it, i will have pics up later, but this motor will be tuned within the next week or so, i will then reupdate it with the skinny. anyhow i just thought i would chime in and say, ITS RUNNING and im STOKED.

 

Nice work, that motor should pull pretty hard.

 

IMHO typeR's run alot better than b16's And they run forever

 

nice set up im gonna run the almost the same exact set up but im running p30 pistons and ls rods

 

thats a good option, just remember to replace those rod bolts. I am thinking about spraying mine later down the line with a small shot, maybe a 35 or so.

 

ok, dyno results are peaks at 126 tg and 177 hp, kinda low but my header is crushed on the bottom, and its a dc 4-1, sucky. Another hold up is the cams, i think that these cams are GREAT for the street, my car is FUN. But in-order to me to reach a bigger hp number, I think I need a higher reving cam. Cams toped out at 78 or so and rev limit is at 8200. I am satisfied for now and for my first motor build.

 

get a better header....
a friend has an RMF and its awesome...if you can wait...
i just saw a thread about ANR and they look good for the price

 

yeah, im split between ANR and RMF and the tri y design. These numbers are relatively low to me, so that header will be the next move, and i may step up to a more agressive cam.