Well, after almost a year of research, I have came to my conclusion to do this. I plan to run :

-GReddy Turbo Kit (Using bluebox for fuel management)
-Intercooler w/BOV
-Big *** Tranny Cooler
-Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
-2.25" Exhaust (Already On)

The stock GReddy boost on the LS/RS is I believe, 7 PSI which I believe my transmission will be able to hold. As far as my driving, this is my daily driver, I drive about 1 mile to work about 5 times out of the week. My driving habits are excellent, I never floor it, & always baby my ride. Now you ask why I want to buy a turbo, especially a GReddy kit?...keep it legal, smog etc, & for a bit of fun for whenever I want. I am pretty skeptical about the transmission, but I have read HUNDREDS of posts here on HT, & other forums & it always seems to be the "bad asses" who blow up there tranny in the first week . No offense to anyone.

So the last couple days, I did a test. I checked to see how many times I went over 3,000 (would be turbo spool time) & found I always of course shifted normally at around 2500-2800. So I of course will not be boosting EVERY day, just more than likely 2 or 3 times a week, so my question to you guys is, what do you think? I just want a few voices of opinions about this & since you know my driving habits. I of course dont race or track the car, its my baby, im not going to abuse the love of my life lol And no, dont tell me to do a 5 speed swap, im a city driver, love the auto, & most of all, I want to be DIFFERENT!

P.S. Im going for a bit of a show car, & this would deffinetly bring the most out of her.

Opinions may begin

 

if its what you want then do it...im sure many ppl are against putting turbo on auto...but if you want to be different then go for it you have the money...

 

greddy = more like greedy, you see the prices on those things? You can piece one together for less, and youd prolly be better off switching to a manual trans.

 

Uhh, did I not just say not to tell me that?

Anyhow, my decisions are final. This is my setup, & I know of every other "custom" turbo setup, like I already said, I want it all LEGAL & SMOG... re-read this post dude.

 

I know you told us not to comment about going to a 5-speed swap....but....

Do you know you will be wasting your money? My Integra was an automatic. I've had friends with turbo automatics at 10psi. After I swapped to the 5-speed, I could run EVEN with them at 10psi. Now you're only going 7psi.

I would venture to say a stock Civic EX manual (with intake/exhaust) will be faster than you. And yes, I raced my friends manual EX when my car was an automatic. He beat me.

I went the route of a 5-speed conversion FIRST, then I went turbo. Best decision ever.

EDIT: I'm sure you could beat the 5-speed equivalents (Integras/Civics) on top end, but on a stoplight to stoplight race or even a quarter mile, they would be so far ahead of you because of the "shitty automatic start/gearing" that you wouldn't catch up.


Modified by shamoo at 6:55 PM 5/23/2005

 

Turbo is great, but on an auto?
I had turbo on my auto for about 6 months. It doens't run too good.
At first I was cool, but you don't get the control you do from a 5-speed.
You should consider doing a 5-speed swap too when you put in your turbo.
I just created a thread about 5 minutes ago for all the parts and steps.

What you should conisder getting for you your turbo.
The greddy kit comes pretty complete, everything bolt on.
that's what I should have done. I got the drag manifold, turbo, and downpipe.
Then I peiced it together with some madral bent pipings, a blitz BOV, a TiAl wastegate, and AEM fuel rail and fuel regulator. I also got an A/F gauge and
boost gauge. The most important part when turbo-ing a car is A/F. I upgrad my whole fuel system. I have a walbro 255 and 450cc injectors. The greddy only
comes with 310. I have my tuned at 10psi with an AFC. Its running fine right now.
It's running even better now that I converted to a 5 speed.

 

Well you obviously want a turbo for show reasons so just get the biggest, shiniest thing you can afford since performance isn't important in this case.

 

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Yup

 

Gunna stick with GReddy actually. Thinking about ditching the blue box though, what does everyone recomend?

Im going to stick with the stock PSI that the wastegate has right now... someone recommended a SAFC, but I dunno. I want it to be COMPLETLEY safe & I DO plan upgrading my fuel pump but that was all, any more opinions would be greatly appreciated.

I cant exactly get to a dyno & dont tune myself...so I must get something through the net.

 

Have you considered a supercharger? I think with auto your tuning options are limited, correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think hondata/uberdata support auto ecu? For some reason that sticks in my head and i'm not sure if I read it somewhere or just assumed it.

 

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You're gonna be sorry afterwards when you realize how much money you wasted....but anyway.....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im going to stick with the stock PSI that the wastegate has right now... someone recommended a SAFC, but I dunno. I want it to be COMPLETLEY safe & I DO plan upgrading my fuel pump but that was all, any more opinions would be greatly appreciated.

I cant exactly get to a dyno & dont tune myself...so I must get something through the net. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The guy who posted above, I believe, is right. I don't know of any engine management systems that work with an automatic ECU. At least, not with Hondas. I could be wrong though.

In that case, you'd be wise to have some sort of fuel management such as the S-AFC someone recommended. That will adjust your fuel curve according to rpm and throttle position. At the suggested 7psi, I don't believe you need larger injectors, although it wouldn't hurt. An S-AFC only FOOLS the MAP sensor into raising and lowering the volatage, thus adjusting fuel delivery. However, if you think about it, you cannot "increase" fuel past 100%, which is what your stock injectors run at all the time. It can only lower the fuel. In that case, it would be better to get slightly larger injectors and tune them down.

The bad part about Hondas in general is their inability to adjust timing during positive pressure in the intake (i.e.: forced induction). In that case, and since you probably won't find any automatic friendly systems, I'd get something such as an MSD BTM, which adjusts timing in according to pressure.

Your fuel pump is fine too. Keep it stock.

 

All I can say is, you definitely won't be babying your car when you feel boost. Boost is an addiction, and you'll be wanting to keep turning it up, and up, and up. It's a vicious cycle really. These days auto to manual isn't that big of a deal it shouldn't cost all that much, and even if it is you won't regret it. Scrap your Greddy kit, because where you live Emissions isn't going to be honestly that big of a deal. I live in the shittiest state to try and pass Emissions in, but I pay twice the amount of smog fee to get my car smogged. My car brings me enjoyment, and I don't have mouths to feed so It's not a big deal for me to shell out a little extra denero to get things done right.

I was like you, I wanted to turbo my integra even though it was auto (3 years ago). My tuner said he wouldn't have anything to do with it because he didn't want to install something that would eventually cause problems on me. So I spent another year researching and got my auto/manual done then put on my turbo kit. Why set yourself up with probelms? It seems to me you either don't want to spend the extra money on your car, or that you can't drive a manual. If you take my advice for granted then so be it, just remember it's not the lbs of boost that messes the motor, it's the whp and tuning is the key.

 

the on thing i have learned in life is **** what everyone else says most of the time get the greddy drop that **** in and have fun when ever you want. just remember with a turbo will eventually come problems.

 

The intercooler is not legal, though the turbo kit is. So, it might make sense to just go with a different kit, or piece one together, since you'll be illegal anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra_RS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gunna stick with GReddy actually. Thinking about ditching the blue box though, what does everyone recomend?

Im going to stick with the stock PSI that the wastegate has right now... someone recommended a SAFC, but I dunno. I want it to be COMPLETLEY safe & I DO plan upgrading my fuel pump but that was all, any more opinions would be greatly appreciated.

I cant exactly get to a dyno & dont tune myself...so I must get something through the net. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you want the greddy kit to stay legal, but if u researched then youd kno that adding the intercooler and BOV to that kit negates the legality of it. again, if you researched, youd also kno that the greddy kit doesnt come with the blue box anymore, it comes with e-manage now.

so in short, youre gonna end up turbo-ing the auto with a greddy kit without a BOV and intercooler (to stay legal). there's nothin wrong wit turbo-ing an auto, it's just that your combination doesnt look like itd be very productive.

 

Why is the intercooler not legal?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know you told us not to comment about going to a 5-speed swap....but....

Do you know you will be wasting your money? My Integra was an automatic. I've had friends with turbo automatics at 10psi. After I swapped to the 5-speed, I could run EVEN with them at 10psi. Now you're only going 7psi.

I would venture to say a stock Civic EX manual (with intake/exhaust) will be faster than you. And yes, I raced my friends manual EX when my car was an automatic. He beat me.

I went the route of a 5-speed conversion FIRST, then I went turbo. Best decision ever.

EDIT: I'm sure you could beat the 5-speed equivalents (Integras/Civics) on top end, but on a stoplight to stoplight race or even a quarter mile, they would be so far ahead of you because of the "shitty automatic start/gearing" that you wouldn't catch up.


Modified by shamoo at 6:55 PM 5/23/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>


but if he could get the gsr auto tranny from japan, it would be worth it.. they have turbo supra's that kick almost any 5/6spd turbo asses... i say go with it man, constant boost between shifts..

 

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05's

 

yes those auto turbo supras have chevy ******* th400, I fogewet the exact name of the trans, its a 3 speed trans desinged to do only one thing, go straight and shift fast, his car is not in the same situation, you want a fast auto, call IPT, but it would be prolly cheaper to get a manual trans install than building an auto trans.

 

if u aren't going to "race" your car, or even bring it to the track, whats the use for the turbo??? too just say u have it?? but its your car you should so what u want good luck with everything.

 

hey, I use to have an auto turbo teg. I ran a greddy15g turbo tho, not the 18g that comes with the integra kit. to tell you the truth it would be faster and a fun project, but i'm guessing the fastest it would get would be 13.xx. As for what type of fuel management you are going to use, I believe the new kits come with the Emanage not the blue box. If it comes with the blue box ditch it.

 

I've been doin alot of research on turbo lately too and Greddy isnt exactly the best way to go...but thats just my opinion...and it's understandable since your just going for the "show" look and not really taking it to the track...good luck with evrything

 

i say go for it, have some fun. what do you have to lose, if the tranny does die out which it might not sence you dont beat on it all the time and take it easy for the most like you said it should last for quite some time. you can pick up another auto tranny for really cheap or just swap to 5spd if it does ever go on you. Good luck

 

Yes...I do know the blue box doesnt come with the new GReddy kits now, but I got a older version of the kit coming in the mail right now with the blue box. And I am fully aware that the intercooler is not legal, it wouldnt take 15 minutes to remove the i/c

 

I know you're going to do whatever you want to do and all, but really that Greddy kit was alot of money spent based on the power you are going to make. Who cares if it passes smog. They have smog in Missouri? I'm in the southeast and it would be a challenge to find somewhere that actually tests for smog. Thats why Greddy kits cost so much, because they pass smog, and are "legal" under the circumstances that you don't use an intercooler.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra_RS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes...I do know the blue box doesnt come with the new GReddy kits now, but I got a older version of the kit coming in the mail right now with the blue box. And I am fully aware that the intercooler is not legal, it wouldnt take 15 minutes to remove the i/c </TD></TR></TABLE>

So because the guy who inspects your car doesn't know you have an intercooler, it's legal? You're saying you want the car to be legal, but in reality its not, you just fooled the inspection guy into thinking it was. If I kill someone, and fool the police into thinking it wasn't me, does that make what I did legal? Of course not.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to flame or anything like that, by all means, do what you want to do. I too have a 1g Integra, and alot of people tell me that doing stuff to my car is a waste. But I think you're worrying about legality a little too much. Where I live, just so your tires/brakes/lights are good, and your car is remotely legal, you pass . But really, do whatever you want, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Best of luck