Hi everyone,

I am about to buy tires and was considering a bigger size for the width. Anybody running this size on stock wheels and suspension. I am also looking at Nitto 450's anybody have any experience with them.

Thanks in advance.

 

stay away from the Nitto's I have them in 195/55/r15 and the SUCK I would suggest the stock RE010's as that is what I'm going with as soon as I finish with the Nitto's.

 

Thanks, that is the kind of information I am looking for

 

I do believe you need wheels at least 7 inches wide to safely run a 225/50/15.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01PY0559 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stay away from the Nitto's I have them in 195/55/r15 and the SUCK I would suggest the stock RE010's as that is what I'm going with as soon as I finish with the Nitto's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have Potenza RE01's they work grrrrrreat...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do believe you need wheels at least 7 inches wide to safely run a 225/50/15.</TD></TR></TABLE>
its not a safety issue at all.. its for optimal tire performance

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMitr54 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i have Potenza RE01's they work grrrrrreat... </TD></TR></TABLE>

re010 are old technology, they work, but any newer high performance tire similar to s-03's will handle just as well if not better, have better rain traction, and last longer. most manufacturers make that type of tire. toyo/nitto street tire aren't same type of design, same goes for fuzion tires, main difference is thread compound. if you're to run 205/50-15 type of size, get a wider wheel and it will improve overall handling.

i see you run turbo from your sig, you'll spin through re010 like crazy, its not even worth it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 200cs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi everyone,

I am about to buy tires and was considering a bigger size for the width. Anybody running this size on stock wheels and suspension. I am also looking at Nitto 450's anybody have any experience with them.

Thanks in advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I run 225/50/15 Kumho V710 on stock size wheels in the front for autox, and I know several people who do the same.

You might get slight rubbing on the fender walls during hard cornering at full steering lock, but nothing serious.

However, these will not fit on the rears without spacers. They will rub severely to the point of smoking. I run 205/50/15 in the back, which is the common autox solution.

HTH

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bender &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I run 225/50/15 Kumho V710 on stock size wheels in the front for autox, and I know several people who do the same.

You might get slight rubbing on the fender walls during hard cornering at full steering lock, but nothing serious.

However, these will not fit on the rears without spacers. They will rub severely to the point of smoking. I run 205/50/15 in the back, which is the common autox solution.

HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>

just want to point out to whoever might not know that your front tires aren't same as street tire.. regardless of fitment, 225 street tire on 6" wheel won't give best results

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just want to point out to whoever might not know that your front tires aren't same as street tire.. regardless of fitment, 225 street tire on 6" wheel won't give best results</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good point. I'm not sure what the original poster's concerns were or goals are. 225 on a stock width wheel is what you get stuck with autoxing in stock class. If you don't have class rules to worry about, I would use a wider wheel for that width tire...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">re010 are old technology, they work, but any newer high performance tire similar to s-03's will handle just as well if not better, have better rain traction, and last longer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true at all.

The RE010 in the 195/55-15 was designed specifically to maximize the handling of the ITR. Other tires, even if they are newer, were designed for a variety of vehicles with a variety of weights etc. Most other tires do not have the crisp handling of the RE010 when used on the ITR.

Also, the rain traction on the RE010 is just fine, as long as you have a good amount of tread depth. When they get worn, they don't grip as well in rain - but that's true of every tire out there.

As for treadlife, I currently have 26K miles on the original set of RE010 on my ITR, and they still have a few thousand miles of life left. That's damn good, and better than a lot of other tires out there.

RE010

 

i got 40k out of so3's - i still had 10k miles to go until low thread, kumho mx seemed to work even better. i'm not dissing re010, i do rembmer crisp handling when i first got hte car.. however, if you mount 205-50/15 on a wider wheel, it will also provide great grip unless you already had opportunity to try that and didn't like it. my main reasons for sticking with so3 type of tire is... 1. better traction, dry and wet and 2. longer thread life.

btw, i went through 2 sets of re010 in ~ 30k miles same type of driving.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do believe you need wheels at least 7 inches wide to safely run a 225/50/15.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I run a close size.. 225/45/15, and 15x17 is the way to go (I use kosei k1's). Otherwise the handling is just too sloppy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I run a close size.. 225/45/15, and 15x17 is the way to go (I use kosei k1's). Otherwise the handling is just too sloppy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I love the steamroller look of those 17 inch wide wheels, but I would use a 435/5/15 tire on them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I run a close size.. 225/45/15, and 15x17 is the way to go (I use kosei k1's). Otherwise the handling is just too sloppy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A good point, 225/50 is too tall. 225/45 is closer to what you'd want.

Also, some tires (Falken Azenis RT215, etc.) are awfully wide for a 205, they might be all you need without dealing with the wheel well rubbing, etc.

This exact question (+/-) was just discussed in the RR/AX.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1246783

205 on a 7" wheel is a good bet to improve handling and not rub. 225 may require fender rolling, spacers, etc.

-Chris

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A good point, 225/50 is too tall. 225/45 is closer to what you'd want.

Also, some tires (Falken Azenis RT215, etc.) are awfully wide for a 205, they might be all you need without dealing with the wheel well rubbing, etc.

This exact question (+/-) was just discussed in the RR/AX.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1246783

205 on a 7" wheel is a good bet to improve handling and not rub. 225 may require fender rolling, spacers, etc.

-Chris
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Plus 225/45's or 50's don't fit square even on a 7" wheel anyway if you really talkin fitment.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205 on a 7" wheel is a good bet to improve handling and not rub. 225 may require fender rolling, spacers, etc.
-Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

I run the 225/45/15's with 3mm spacers, but not due to rubbing issues-- they are for clearance of aftermakret calipers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I run the 225/45/15's with 3mm spacers, but not due to rubbing issues-- they are for clearance of aftermakret calipers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which tire, and what offset/width wheels?

225/50R15 rubbed the inside of my wheel well at full lock, I have the rub marks to prove it. (old Victoracers)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which tire, and what offset/width wheels?

225/50R15 rubbed the inside of my wheel well at full lock, I have the rub marks to prove it. (old Victoracers)</TD></TR></TABLE>

225/45/50 Kumho V700's on kosei k1 15x7 with a +38 offset w/3mm spaces for calipers (no rub lock to lock without the 3mm spacers and OEM calipers). No rub at all, lock to lock.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
225/45/[15] Kumho V700's on kosei k1 15x7 with a +38 offset w/3mm spaces for calipers (no rub lock to lock without the 3mm spacers and OEM calipers). No rub at all, lock to lock.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So, without your aftermarket calipers, you wouldn't need the spacers at all?

I have some 225-45-15 RA1 on the way, to be used with 15x7 +38 wheels (either Kosei K1 or JDM SSR), so I'm collecting notes.

You didn't have to roll the rear fenders?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I run a close size.. 225/45/15, and 15x17 is the way to go (I use kosei k1's). Otherwise the handling is just too sloppy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn those are some wide wheels

i know you meanr 15x7

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 200cs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi everyone,

I am about to buy tires and was considering a bigger size for the width. Anybody running this size on stock wheels and suspension. I am also looking at Nitto 450's anybody have any experience with them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're on OEM wheels, there's not much that beats the original 010's in the original size.

You can get RT615 Falkens or the new Hankooks in 205-50-15, but they are a little wide for the size. It'll work because of the stiff sidewalls, but it's not optimal. I don't want to scare you...it'll be fine, and cheaper than the OEM 010's, but not optimal.

A lot of people use 205-50-15 on the OEM 6" wide wheels and never notice that it's not "optimal." I've even had Dunlop S5000 in 215-50-15 on the OEM wheels, but they were a little squirmy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Plus 225/45's or 50's don't fit square even on a 7" wheel anyway if you really talkin fitment.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When you talk about square fit, are you referring to the tread section being the exact width of the wheel?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When you talk about square fit, are you referring to the tread section being the exact width of the wheel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Surely not?

I was assuming that he's referring to the balooning effect you get if you put too wide of a tire on a rim.

For instance, when autocrossing, I would cord the outside edge of a 205/50 tire every time (Stock R). But a 225/50 I would cord in the middle, since the outside edge wasn't making as solid of a contact.

OTOH I think his post should have has a YMMV, since tire tread and sidewalls vary by manufacturer. But a lot of 225's would fit better on a 7.5" wheel, or even 8".

 

I have always thought that a 215 50 15 would be the Ideal Tire size but when I bought my wheels there were so few tires that came in that size.
Another thing that I haven’t herd anyone say is rotating mass. Add 2 lbs to your car at the outer most edge of the wheel and it will be slower. My 2 Cents