What's up guys i just wanted to know what settings you guys are using on you agx shocks i got agx shocks with suspension techniques springs and tein pillow ball mounts i was thinking 3 for the front 2 for the rear what do you guys have yours set on?

 

Ive got mine set on 3 all the way around

 

1 front and back for the street, for ridability. If I were to go to the strip I'd run 4 on front, to slow weight transfer to the rear.

 

I have them set on 2 all the way round.

 

i got mine set on 2 in the front and 3 in the back..i'm on coilovers though.. the ride is a little firm. but hugs the corners really nicely though.

 

I have mine set at 4 front and rear. It could be stiffer! A stiff ride doesn't bother me at all, friends riding passenger are complainers though hah

 

what would stock shocks be compared to on the 1-5 settings?

 

what do you guys think about the kyb's? im in the market for a suspension set up and im trying to get opinions. kyb... yay or nay

 

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Depends on what you want of course. If you want full adjustability then nay, since the 4 settings affect both bump and rebound together. If you don't care, then yay. You'll have 4 settings. I have not had problems with them thus far. It's been about 6 months.

Er, AGX that is.

 

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How could you tell?! Mine only have 4 settings.

Someone would have to install stock shock on one side, and AGX on the other, both with the same spring, and start bumping it until they felt the same. I don't know if anyone would have done that.

I would assume setting 1.

 

im looking for a reliable street setup, its never gonna be tracked or raced. I do quite a bit of highway driving and for 9 months outta the year i live in bumcrap southern va at VA Tech. needless to say the roads are awful, so im looking for something soft enough to be driven daily, but that can be flexed for when im backroading. I was looking at the tokico blues but ive heard bad things, anyway, thanks guys.

 

on 1 when the road suck here
on 2 when they fixed the road here

riding Tanabe GF210 spring, omg, these springs pwn!!!

 

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Well, these shocks are made to be used with a stock setup, so I'm sure they are fine for that application. I wouldn't go with too high of a spring rate. Not too high over stock that is. 350lbs/in max.

Making the front stiffer will induce understeer, while stiffening the rear will induce oversteer. If you know how to control it, some oversteer will allow you to take corners faster.

Stiffening can be done either with springs OR anti-roll bars. Shock stiffness will only dictate how FAST weight is transferred, and it's effect on overall stiffness in respect to tuning your over/understeer is negligible.

Just spreading some knowledge of what I have learned.

 

when i had agx i set them at 1f/2r on my hr sports for daily. in the canyons 3/4. then when i got my new suspension, i realized how soft agx's are
my skunk2 pro series feel like 10/10 (if agx's went up that high). they are non adjustable dampers .

but yea 1f 2r

 

Holy crap that's got to be stiff as hell. Either that or you had a different set of AGXs than what I have.

Having it that stiff would cause you to lose contact with the road over bumps. Seriously that's stiff as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spring rates play a role as well, the skunk2's are only 8kg front and 6kg rear

 

I'm talking about your dampers. With them that stiff, they won't let your spring move and follow the road.

 

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im sure if that was the case with my set-up, skunk2 wouldnt have put it on the production line

 

you all seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject. what spring would you recomend on the agx? also, would you recomend the agx over the illumina? AND what are your feelings on the tokico blues? Ive searched all over for some straight answers to this and i always get mish mash. "just get the koni yellows" "the blues are too soft" "blah blah my muscles are really big" i want to know how they compare to the stock suspension, not to the 97 way adjustable 4800 dollar racing coilovers. again, thanks everyone for helping out the noob


Modified by kevpotts at 2:56 PM 5/21/2005

 

bump for noob-atude

 

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So then your AGXs must be different than what I have.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevpotts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you all seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject. what spring would you recomend on the agx? also, would you recomend the agx over the illumina? AND what are your feelings on the tokico blues? Ive searched all over for some straight answers to this and i always get mish mash. "just get the koni yellows" "the blues are too soft" "blah blah my muscles are really big" i want to know how they compare to the stock suspension, not to the 97 way adjustable 4800 dollar racing coilovers. again, thanks everyone for helping out the noob


Modified by kevpotts at 2:56 PM 5/21/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

I need to hit the sac, but I'll post my .02 tomorrow morning for you. All you can get is opinions, or general information about this. I'd suggest to only consider the general information, and comments about a particular product, and tune out people that say "buy this". You already know that though.

 

Well, soft is a matter of relativity, I mean soft to you may be too hard for me, and that's depending somewhat on your road conditions and/or application (street/track). If you have a very stiff damper, you may skip over bumps, as the damper doesn't allow enough movement in the suspension.

As for a spring recommendation on the AGX, it's not a matter of it being on the AGX. Let me paste something from a different post:

"The purpose of the spring is to hold up the car, but a spring transfers energy, and will bounce forever (not really, but you know what I mean). A damper is used (shock/strut) to turn that energy into heat by moving a piston with small orifaces (orifi?) through a fluid, so your spring (and car) stops bouncing."

Shock stiffness affects how fast weight is transferred.

So having that said, your spring and your damper are seperate parts.

Bottom line, in my opinion:
Focus on what spring rate you want. Stiffer on front will induce understeer (stock), and stiffer on rear will induce oversteer. This stiffness can be manipulated with either the springs or the anti-roll bars. I don't know what conditions you will be in, so I couldn't begin to recommend any specific rate, but even so, that's totally up to your preference. Find out what your rates are NOW, and use that for your comparison.

Also, keep in mind that when you change suspension parts with different specs, you change the geometry of the suspension. For example, when your car gets lower, you are not just changing your ride height, you are affecting your camber and toe as well. So then, along with your spring/shock purchase, I recommend you also spend the $ on a camber kit. Even if you want the negative camber, and don't like having tread on the inside edge of the tire, it's still good to have adjustability. Always get an alignment after a suspenision part change, of different specs.

I have no opinion on other shocks as I have no experience with them.

 

thanks for taking the time out to help man. i still got alot of research to do but at least now i know how it all works. thanks again yreth

 

NP. Research is always best.