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Old May 18, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Default Time for sleeving...where to go?

The b20 finally had it and I intend to send out the gsr block to get sleeved to 84.5mm but I am not sure where to send the block. I hear goods about one company and bad about another. I would like to hear from the source (h-t members) who have had there blocks sleeved with and any good and bads from all the companys out there. I'm not tring to start trash about any company but cost for sleeving is pricey and would like to learn more before I decide who to go with. Thank you all for your experience. I dont not have time at work to be online and do searches so all info is greatly appreciated
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Old May 18, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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I know you asked for fellow HT members to come here and give you their experiences, but let me just send some info your way. We are one of the only companies to sleeve B20's!

Below you will find some detailed information that may help to answer some of your questions.
To get your B20 engine sleeved includes the following:

* Golden Eagle Mfg. HD sleeves ( bore capability up to 87 mm all-motor race ONLY, turbo max 85 mm)
* Installation - all done by precision CNC machines for perfect tolerances and dimensions
* Decking - a step deck is standard**
* Jet Wash Cleaning
* 100% inspection of your block, including pressure testing
* Warranty - Lifetime on the sleeves and 1 yr. on the installation

Price is $950 for the above procedure.
Turn around time is approx. 7 working days.
We can accept PayPal, credit cards, money order and personal or business checks.
** Step deck is a decking process that makes the sleeves stick up proud of the block .003" for extra combustion chamber seal.
We do offer discounts for multiple engine sleeve jobs. Please ask for details.

Optional machining includes:

* O-ring - a small copper wire installed around the cylinder to add extra sealing for the head gasket. Max bore size available to 85 mm. Recommended for turbo. ($50)
* Line Bore - to make sure the crank main journals are straight and perfect size. ($220)
* Bore and hone - to perfect specification. Tolerances are .0002" taper / .0002" round with a plateau hone for extremely quick ring seal. ($125)
* Bead Blasting - cleans the outside of the block to look brand new. ($30)

We can also do any engine building you need. We have a full staff of professional engine machining and building personal and can offer you some of the finest engine building available. All engine builds include:

* Block inspection, 100% cleaned and bead blasted to look brand new!
* Arias Pistons ( shelf pistons or custom ) Arias is our piston of choice. We have used them, and other pistons, and have found Arias to be superior!
* Eagle, Crower, Pauter, Cunningham or aluminum BME rods. ( depending on your budget and hp goals )
* Bore and Hone ( perfect clearance for smooth, quiet operation and longevity. Our plateau hone requires less break-in for extremely quick ring seal. Tolerances held = Taper .0002", Round .0002" )
* Line bore ( most companies do not offer this because it is too expensive. Crank tunnel is re-aligned to be perfectly straight and within .0001" on size. )
* Sized crank ( done to obtain PERFECT bearing clearances. We don't just match colors by code, we actually measure and size the crank as needed to our turbo race engine clearances )
* Balanced rotating assembly ( not offered by most other engine builders. Our rotating assemblies are electronically balanced to 10,000 RPM for extremely smooth operation throughout the RPM range )
* ACL race bearings ( coated bearings used in EVERY race engine we assemble )
* New oil pump
* New bottom end gasket set ( oil pan, main seals and oil pickup )
* Fully blueprinted and assembled. You get a spec sheet back with your block dictating the bearing clearances, piston to wall, all product part #'s, etc.

For more info on engine build pricing, please send us an e-mail with any and all of your questions. We also offer the highest quality headwork. From port and polish to complete head and valve train assembly, we can do it all.

If you ever have any questions, please feel free to let us know anytime. We appreciate your interest and hope to do business with you soon.

Regards,
Vince Tiaga
Golden Eagle Mfg.
http://www.GoldenEagleMfg.com
Sales@GoldenEagleMfg.com
(909) 592 - 4311 ext. 104
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Old May 18, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Time for sleeving...where to go? (GoldenEagleMfg.com)

Thank you Vince for the info. I will consider Golden Eagle. Nice turn around time The block I will be sleeving is the gsr block and just use the crank, rods and pistons from the b20 since I will be gaining the gsr girdle and internal vtec oil channel. Do you have a recommendation for a head gasket to work with a 84.5mm cylinder? I used oem b20 but that offers 84mm to 20 over. Thank you
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Old May 18, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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We have OEM over-bored gaskets in stock at all times in almost every bore size. I always recommend OEM!! We use the VTEC gasket so if you use the GSR block, then it will be perfect
Vince
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Old May 18, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Time for sleeving...where to go? (Crisgo)

Dan Benson does exceptional work, and is the OG of sleeving
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Old May 18, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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exospeed also sleeves blocks!
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Old May 18, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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I have golden eagle sleeving done on this beast and they are awesome. have not a single problem.

now to get a GE FPR to match my rail.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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Do you happen to have any links to Dan Benson and Exospeed? Thank you
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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Benson Performance Machine at (714) 241-1284
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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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RLZ did mine, the sleeving was perfect. I ran 20+ PSI of boost for over 400WHP on it for nine months with no problems. They used Darton open deck sleeves.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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exospeed.com or pm will exospeedAMcrx
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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crisgo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you happen to have any links to Dan Benson and Exospeed? Thank you </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Thank you for the info
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Just got a block back from Dan:

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Old May 20, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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for GoldenEagle. I have a GE sleeved block. I love it! I dont have pics of my block before the putting the head on i got too excited about finally getting everything done. Im sure Vince has some good pics of GE blocks.


for AEBS.
here is an aebs block we did recently.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Here is a B16 we did for a customer :
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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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I'm running GE's in my b20b. Really like them a lot. Will prolly be sending it to them this fall for a bore/hone.


BTW what the max bore on the ECNO sleeves for a D16?
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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 275Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running GE's in my b20b. Really like them a lot. Will prolly be sending it to them this fall for a bore/hone.


BTW what the max bore on the ECNO sleeves for a D16?</TD></TR></TABLE>

We don't offer Econo anymore. We feel that the HD sleeve is the only way to go and right around the same price too
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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Thank you all for your experience and knowledge
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:03 AM
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Anytime. If you ever have any other questions, please let me know anytime
Vince
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Old May 24, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Got mine done by Benson.......... PM earl
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Old May 24, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Time for sleeving...where to go? (Crisgo)

I only use Golden Eagle
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Old May 25, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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here is mine, another Benson block




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Old May 25, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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You can go to http://www.erlperformance.com and not only see our Darton sleeved blocks but we also show video of our facilities where your block gets sleeved. You can just call the guys over at Full-Race about our product cause that's who does all their motors.
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