I've been thinking about getting the jrsc for my LS Integra. I was wondering what kind of gas mileage you guys are getting for the ls or gsr. Would a GSR tranny make a big difference in acceleration with the sc? thanks!

 

gas mileage should not change, so it would be the same. But initially it will be worse because you will be flooring it all the time. So just like if you were to floor it all the time now, you would get suck *** gas mileage.

 

Thanks Black-ls, did you notice a big difference in power? How is the reliabilty? thanks again.

 

your mileage will go down slightly in light cruising and highway use. it will drop really badly when yuo get into it. which will be all of the time.

 

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Personally I've ran the JRSC on the FMU, standalone, and chipped Uberdata setup. Never had a single problem with it. But the guy I bought the JRSC setup from blew his motor... don't really know how. The JRSC FMU setup ran a perfect 12:1 A/F at 6psi putting down 210whp with cam gears tuned. There is a big diff in power, fun to drive in stop and go.

 

just read you have a LS integra, I would not suggest you invest in a JRSC for the LS B18B motors. Not worth it. go Turbo with that motor

 

how goods the torque black-ls. ive often considered a jrsc, but peps who have it say to go turbo. Not a very good consideration.

 

I've got a JR super on my B18B and I love it. Had it now for almost 5 years. Gas mileage difference is minimal even better at times depending on city/highway use. And of course any car will suffer if ya ROMP on it. I also went with some Endyn mods and increased the psi. I would stick with the tranny you have unless it's absolutely shot other than that it would be a waste of money. Also if you don't plan on a stand alone and are reliant on the Jr FMU I would switch it out for a Cartech FMU ( try Jim at Motorvations Motorsports (205)661-3600) He is very knowledgeable about Honda/Acura and the JR superchargers in general. He was also moderator at the forced induction board. Have'nt been there in a long time but knowing Jim he is still there also that # is to his shop. I also added Apexi SAFC along with many other mods like built block and so forth but did that before boost increases on unit. Very reliable and very fun. I would do it again except save up sooner for Hondata. Has always you will hear various sides turbo/super and they're both very fun.Hell I still love N/A cars built right and some of em can take out us force fed guys. Whatever route ya choose have a fun time building it and drive the **** out of it .Has always much love to all our Honda Acura brethren. We can all get along!

 

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Go tubro! U'll be happier. And as far as the tranny, if you want the shorter gears...get a B16 tranny, it has the same gearing as the ITR minus the final. The B16 tranny would be the better choice when compared to the GSR tranny.

 

He will also be paying twice as much if he goes turbo. The SC is enough power to keep anyone just looking for a mild upgrade happy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompanyFlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He will also be paying twice as much if he goes turbo. The SC is enough power to keep anyone just looking for a mild upgrade happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't understand how $2400 GReddy Turbo Kit vs a $2500 JRSC is twice as much. It's actually cheaper

resource - http://www.modacar.com/product...AFOIN/

Plus with the turbo kit, u can easily higher the boost level (to a level of safety for the engine considering the internals of course) by just adding a boost controller.

with the supercharger, you have to replace pullies to change the boost level.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Personally I've ran the JRSC on the FMU, standalone, and chipped Uberdata setup. Never had a single problem with it. But the guy I bought the JRSC setup from blew his motor... don't really know how. The JRSC FMU setup ran a perfect 12:1 A/F at 6psi putting down 210whp with cam gears tuned. There is a big diff in power, fun to drive in stop and go. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really??? You had a 12:1 A/F without any tuning? and why did you keep the FMU with Uberdata? Im waiting on my wideband so i can start tuning and i was planing on getting rid of the FMU. And 210 whp?? Thats really good, i swear mine feels pretty damn slow.

 

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I don't understand how $2400 GReddy Turbo Kit vs a $2500 JRSC is twice as much. It's actually cheaper

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I don't know about you, but I think modacar is one of the more expensive import parts shops. Even on the jackson racing homepage the B18B charger is 2k.
http://www.jacksonracing.com/S...33368

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Takumi Fujiwara &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know about you, but I think modacar is one of the more expensive import parts shops. Even on the jackson racing homepage the B18B charger is 2k.
http://www.jacksonracing.com/S...33368</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't shop at modacar, that was just the first site that popped into my head where i knew there was an alright selection. I was just trying to compare the prices of a turbo kit and a supercharger because it was stated that turbo would cost twice as much when it's pretty much the same.

If i searched i coulda found some cheaper ones...for example this....

The GReddy kit for the LS is only $1500 on this site... http://www.racingworks.com/greddy_turbokits.htm

 

Thanks for all the replies guys )

I would rather go turbo, but I need to get something that is carb legal as I live in California, and the greddy kits are carb exempt for 96-00. I have a 95. Company flow is correct on the power goals I'm trying to acheive. I'm just looking for some extra oomph and not a top speed monster. I guess the goals I have in mind are quicker off the line acceleration and better low-midrange power. thanks again!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2-JRSC’d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really??? You had a 12:1 A/F without any tuning? and why did you keep the FMU with Uberdata? Im waiting on my wideband so i can start tuning and i was planing on getting rid of the FMU. And 210 whp?? Thats really good, i swear mine feels pretty damn slow. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, I guess I was lucky to have the setup run well with a FMU. I didn't keep the FMU with UD. I've run seperately on the FMU setup, a LINK Standalone ECU, and now trying out the Uberdata. This was on a B18C1, GSR motor.

 

Do you happen to have any uberdata maps for the JRSC. I have the same engine (GSR) and im a little new to uberdata and if i could look at your maps that would help a lot. Im not sure if the basemaps im making are right. Thanks.

 

My buddy has a JRSC on his D16z6 and it is very fun, reliable and the milage isn't bad at all. He prolly get about what he used to before the CS. The GS-R tranny will help with acceleration quite a bit. He found his kit used on ebay for $1000 and it came with everything and works perfect and pulls hard.

 

I find that price hard to believe when a MAJORITY of the Greddy kits are $3000+ while the JRSC for B18B's are only $1900 on the Jackson site.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompanyFlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I find that price hard to believe when a MAJORITY of the Greddy kits are $3000+ while the JRSC for B18B's are only $1900 on the Jackson site.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, i provided a link. If it's not for that price then it would qualify as false advertisement. But that site is legit.

 

But isn't the Greddy kit 1900 w/o an intercooler?

 

i use to have a 95 civic with the SC and Hondata, was a good setup and didnt have to worry about tuning, im not sure if there is a high boost kit for the LS, but i know that JR is having a killer sale on the LS SC and its well worth it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cleantegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sure if there is a high boost kit for the LS</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes...there's a high boost kit, but i believe it's about $3000.

For the creator of this thread, If you will never touch your setup again (won't worry about getting more power from the forced induction setup) then you should go with the SC. But, if you know you are going to want more and more power, then the turbo setup is the way to go as it is easier to upgrade.

also, if you want a cheap set up that you will only need for those special moments, then you should go with a wet nitrous set up. The advantage is that you can turn it off anytime, so you can keep your good gas mileage

 

Thanks for all the replies guys! sounds like the supercharger will meet the goals I need. I guess if I need quicker acceleration after the sc install, i could always install a gsr tranny. Like I said, the bottom end is a bit soft, even after the I/H/E install, and according to the dyno graph, JR says it should add around 30whp and 25 torque. Thanks again ;o)


Modified by fasteddy91 at 4:42 PM 6/5/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fasteddy91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess if I need quicker acceleration after the sc install, i could always install a gsr tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Si tranny would have shorter gears than the GSR tranny. The B16 tranny has the same gearing as a type R (minus the final) so if you're gonna upgrade the tranny go with the Si tranny


Edit: I hate typos!!!


Modified by Freshazzburu at 5:19 PM 5/21/2005