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Old May 16, 2005 | 03:59 AM
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Default I am confused... AWD's in Power Street?

I guess I've been under a rock, but why is there AWD (on true street tires) in Power Street? To me, thats going to completely ruin the class when more and more AWD's find out about it.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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i thought awd's were aloud but only can be n/a
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KrautFed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I've been under a rock, but why is there AWD (on true street tires) in Power Street? To me, thats going to completely ruin the class when more and more AWD's find out about it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, they are allowed only on true street radials, and fwd on drag radials, or N/A v6's. And they talk about being competitive. When a awd can catch a 1.7 60' very often, when can a fwd do a 1.7 60' on drag radials?? If it has been done, how often is it done??
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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What are the weight minimums?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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most of the fwd cars in the class are faster than these awd drive cars anyways so thats why they have the rules that way
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vaporboy12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most of the fwd cars in the class are faster than these awd drive cars anyways so thats why they have the rules that way</TD></TR></TABLE>


I agree.............for now.....once the word gets out AWD will dominate the class
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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What exactly are power street rules you just have to run a street tire? or is there small things like the t4 like matching front seats? can someone please give me the rules for power street.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by someday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What exactly are power street rules you just have to run a street tire? or is there small things like the t4 like matching front seats? can someone please give me the rules for power street.</TD></TR></TABLE>

go to the NDRA site and download them....they are free.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I agree.............for now.....once the word gets out AWD will dominate the class</TD></TR></TABLE>

Trust me, if they wanted to do that, it would already have happened.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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the drivetrain loss would kill the awd cars unless they are allowed turbo. Thats a different story.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecmissle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the drivetrain loss would kill the awd cars unless they are allowed turbo. Thats a different story.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are allowed turbo
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Old May 16, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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this is a bunch of crap! there are local guys riding around in 10 second awd cars on reg radials.the only way to make it even is to allow the fwd cars to run the m/t radials.i will not run p/s anymore unless they make those tires legal
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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I really dont know what they want for this class anymore. I will never think that a RWD 4 cylinder 1 power adder is equal to a FWD 4 cylinder 1 power adder on Drag Radials. Maybe they should just allow 2 power adders for the FWD. A little spray on the big end would be great for MPH.

Everything is looking good for us to have the car at Moroso. It would really suck to get some better numbers than last year only to have some AWD car bust my ***.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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I think that they should start AWD thier own class, with big competitors like ESX, VISHNU,AMS, VEILSIDE etc. running subarus, nissans, mitsu' etc. that way they can showcase in thier own class, it would sure keep them out of any rough nego's with NHRA officials about power adders..
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a bunch of crap! there are local guys riding around in 10 second awd cars on reg radials.the only way to make it even is to allow the fwd cars to run the m/t radials.i will not run p/s anymore unless they make those tires legal</TD></TR></TABLE>

what I really think is stupid is my buddies 240 with a SR swap can't run in this class because RWD can't have a power adder, but AWD can.....I will be runnin the class at norwalk because turbo 4 is just way out of my league, but I don't expect to win by any means
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NDRA Rulebook: Power Street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ENGINE: Reserved for overhead cam 4 cylinder, 6 cylinder, or 2 rotors naturally aspirated entries only. 4 cylinder fwd/rwd entries are allowed 1 power adder, but must run drag radials. Any awd entry will be required to run a DOT approved radial tire. Engine must be the some make as vehicle racing. All RWD 6 cylinder cars will remain naturally aspirated. No turbo, no supercharger and no nitrous allowed on 6 cylinder and rotory powered cars. Bolt on modifications only. Aftermarket cams, headwork, valves, cam gears and other internal modifications allowed. Approved aftermarket blocks allowed. No air-cooled entries. NOTE: If any 6 cylinder car or rotory powered car is found to have any piece of nitrous equipment installed, such as solenoids, micro throttle switches, etc., car will be assumed to be using nitrous and put into the Turbo 6 class.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Might as well sell your drag radials boys... looks like Turbo 4 just got bigger.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20T CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Everything is looking good for us to have the car at Moroso. It would really suck to get some better numbers than last year only to have some AWD car bust my ***. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you will probably the only FWD to give the AWD guys any competition...
"I'm Jim Hucks beouch...the FWD street tire savior"
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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nitrous. hell,the turbo is already enough to make it spin at 130+mph
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Old May 16, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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until there is actually an AWD car that is a frequent competitor in the class that is competitive i wouldn't worry about it at all, the honda's are still dominating

and turbotypeR not to sound harsh or sound like a dick at all but how many events have you attended this year? if you don't plan on traveling around the country to the majority of the NDRA events why does it really matter to you this much?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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i came in 3 at the Mir event bs i should've been in the final. but the top 3 cars were a hatch a se-r turbo and me integra. there were 2 awd car there that got outted by the first round of elims. i love this class i should be at the Bristol event. making the trip from md. i want to make at least 4 events maybe come close to the top in point. i think the class rules are fine the way they are. the Honda's are owning this class. THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.....
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Old May 17, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSC Motorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">until there is actually an AWD car that is a frequent competitor in the class that is competitive i wouldn't worry about it at all, the honda's are still dominating

and turbotypeR not to sound harsh or sound like a dick at all but how many events have you attended this year? if you don't plan on traveling around the country to the majority of the NDRA events why does it really matter to you this much?</TD></TR></TABLE>
because of work,i will only be able to make about 3-4 events this year.the reason i care is that i won $1900 including contengency this weekend and if i can win some more, it sure would help some.as far as hondas dominating goes,most of the dsm guys don't even know about awd being able to run this class and the money they can win.when they do,hondas won't dominate anymore
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Old May 17, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what I really think is stupid is my buddies 240 with a SR swap can't run in this class because RWD can't have a power adder</TD></TR></TABLE>

According to the rules just posted, he can run one power adder, but do it on drag radials. Now if he has an RB, then that's a different story.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 05:57 AM
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what I really think is stupid is my buddies 240 with a SR swap can't run in this class because RWD can't have a power adder, but AWD can.....I will be runnin the class at norwalk because turbo 4 is just way out of my league, but I don't expect to win by any means</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yes he could. As long as he runs BFG's drag radials not larger than 235/60/15 or street tires and not slicks RWD's can run the class with a power adder.
Here's a link to the rules:

http://ndra.nopi.com/2005/ndra_sportsman_rules.pdf

starts the bottom of page 11 for PWS rules.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Yes he could. As long as he runs BFG's drag radials not larger than 235/60/15 or street tires and not slicks RWD's can run the class with a power adder.
Here's a link to the rules:

http://ndra.nopi.com/2005/ndra_sportsman_rules.pdf

starts the bottom of page 11 for PWS rules.</TD></TR></TABLE>


the rules must have just changed then because glenn from nopi told me he couldn't
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Old May 17, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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Until there is an awd competitor its not really a problem. But not only that, there still isnt ANYONE who competes at all the power street events, so whats the problem anyways.
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