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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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just curious where all you folks installed (mounted) your amplifiers?

i was thinking under the seat of my del sol... but the space is kinda narrow. probably won't fit.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by idriveadelsol7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curious where all you folks installed (mounted) your amplifiers?

i was thinking under the seat of my del sol... but the space is kinda narrow. probably won't fit.</TD></TR></TABLE> On most Honda/Acuras you can raise the back of the seat by using longer bolts and installing spacers, [washers] to increase the height.
You can go a little higher on the pass. side, [depends how tall you are] for the drivers side. Cut the carpet ,and underlay if any, under the seat, big enough for the amp to fit through for a little extra depth, [cut the underlay out, cut the carpet on 3 sides and fold under, so if you remove amp, unfold the carpet to cover hole] and don't drill holes in your floorpan to mount the amp, the car will start to rust there. You can make 2- "Z" brackets for the "front" of amp, and screw the top of the "Z" into the seat rail, [screw doesn't go outside] and amp sits as low as possible, and at the back the amp on one side, [with the other side on the floor] will sit off the floor 3/4" to 1" a small block of wood 1"x1"x what ever the gap is scewed to the bottom of the amp, at mounting hole and a little subfloor adhesive [LaPages Ultragrip 4000] and you have your 3rd mount, and thats all that amp needs, no holes through the floor, no place for rust to start and no place for water to start seeping in. BTW--- the bolts that hold the seats in are also very good places to ground the amp/amps 94
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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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I fabbed a piece of masonite to fit exactly in the hatch area of my civic forming a false floor. I used scrap pieces of MDF to space the board up off of the floor a little bit more than the depth of my amp. I then mounted my amps to the bottom of the masonite with the tops of the amps facing the floor. There is enough room for all the wiring & air to breath. And best of all I didnt loose any cargo space.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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i gutted my interior. i haven't measure the space under my seat but it sure feels alot smaller than the height of my amplifier. i wanted to make me a sheet of fiberglass and drill it to the targa holder. install my amplifiers and capacitor on that. by the way, i plan on running a seperate battery.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carracr625 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I fabbed a piece of masonite to fit exactly in the hatch area of my civic forming a false floor. I used scrap pieces of MDF to space the board up off of the floor a little bit more than the depth of my amp. I then mounted my amps to the bottom of the masonite with the tops of the amps facing the floor. There is enough room for all the wiring & air to breath. And best of all I didnt loose any cargo space.</TD></TR></TABLE> Mounting amps upside down is never a good idea 94
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by idriveadelsol7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i gutted my interior. i haven't measure the space under my seat but it sure feels alot smaller than the height of my amplifier. i wanted to make me a sheet of fiberglass and drill it to the targa holder. install my amplifiers and capacitor on that. by the way, i plan on running a seperate battery.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yea, the size of the amp/amps, will make a diff. if you want to install them under the seat, but if you can put them there, they are out of the way, out of site, very hard to steal, and because they are mounted upright in the cabin of the car they get very good cooling. 94
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Old May 16, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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i wouldnt install it under the seat as there is minimal airflow to help cool it. i plan on making a custom box that replaces the storage things behind the seats and mount my amp on top of that in my sol.
i would mount it on the storage lid behind the seat

in my civic, i mounted it on the rear passenger seat so it is concealed from site but maintains airflow
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Mounting amps upside down is never a good idea 94</TD></TR></TABLE>
Huh?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Huh?
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heat rises...
most manuals will tell you not to mount upside down
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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I have had them mounted like that for over a year in this car, and have had no problems. I don't see much difference between mounting them upside down & sandwiching them between your floor & seats. But thanks for the input.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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i mounted mine behind the back seat underneath the fabric
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Old May 16, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Most heatsinks are designed to best discipate heat by having them lay flat on the floor...right side up.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Huh?
Please explain?</TD></TR></TABLE> Huh?..... I have to explain that to you?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

heat rises...
most manuals will tell you not to mount upside down</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carracr625 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had them mounted like that for over a year in this car, and have had no problems. I don't see much difference between mounting them upside down & sandwiching them between your floor & seats. But thanks for the input.</TD></TR></TABLE>I didn't say you could not mount them upside down, I said it wasn't a good idia, I have done it myself once or twice, the heat sinks on an amp are designed to draw heat away from output ICs and tran. and then dissipate it, and as igo4bmx points out heat rises, I'd be willing to bet if you take the same 2 amps and mount one under the seat and the other upside down, the one under the seat will stay cooler 94
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Old May 17, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Huh?..... I have to explain that to you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought you were going to say something weird because you said "never". Just checking, a properly designed heat sink in a well ventilated area should be fine, if you dont have proper ventilation you can add fans. Confined areas I could see this as being a problem. I think some American cars and even some imports have the stock amplifiers mounted upside down in the trunk.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I thought you were going to say something weird because you said "never". Just checking, a properly designed heat sink in a well ventilated area should be fine, if you dont have proper ventilation you can add fans. Confined areas I could see this as being a problem. I think some American cars and even some imports have the stock amplifiers mounted upside down in the trunk.</TD></TR></TABLE> OIC... Even amps mounted upright in "confined areas" may need fans, and funny you should mention the OEM amps being upside down, open one up if you get a chance, I did, just to see, because I was wondering about the upside down mount. somebody was on the ball. 94
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Old May 17, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> OIC... Even amps mounted upright in "confined areas" may need fans, and funny you should mention the OEM amps being upside down, open one up if you get a chance, I did, just to see, because I was wondering about the upside down mount. somebody was on the ball. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>I dont have access to any. So I dont know how they have them mounted as far which way the heatsink points. I know some Mercedes mount their amplifiers vertically which would also allow heat to propogate up through the rest of the circuit.

Heat sinks are designed to pull heat away from the electronics. While mounting it upside down isn't ideal with proper ventilation and airflow it can be done.

I believe Phoenix gold made some amplifiers that can be mounted upside down.


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