Got an email from them. $250 if you preorder. Looks like an affordable option!
Something is better than nothing!

Sorry don't know how to resize the width!

 

Now there is absolutely no reason for any racer to go out there with nothing.

 

Looks like a great product for the $$! Now there really is no excuse for going on track without some form of H&N protection.

Christian, who really likes the price of the budget Isaac but still prefers the design of the original

 

Word is that in testing this product is nearly as good as the original in a head-on impact. Apparently it didn't do much for side loads though, where the original Isaac is still king.

But yeah, for this price there just isn't any excuse. Order one now.

 

link to were to order if from?

 

They're taking pre-orders right now - just mention the item in the comment field on their order form, or call them and place the order. Expect to ship in July, I believe....

http://www.isaacdirect.com

Jarrod

 

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But yeah, for this price there just isn't any excuse. Order one now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Makes sense... I'd imagine that in order to get enough "slack" in the system to look left and right that you'd end up with too much length to help out much in side impacts. Still, it's WAY better than nothing at all.

Personally, I'm planning on dropping the extra $$ for the better system as I value being able to wiggle my fingers and toes.

 

Good to hear from you guys. (We noticed a big spike in traffic from H-T.)

Most fatalities occur among amateur racers, who are always on a budget. So we developed the new Link model for drivers who want something that is "good", but who don't feel the need to stretch for "the best".

Catch is right, it performs very well on the crash sled -- not was well as the original, shock-based Isaac, but much better than other sub-$500 products. In fact, it is the third best design ever tested at Wayne State (which has tested everything) behind the Isaac and the HANS. It has no lateral support, but neither does a HANS.

It is an entry level model, so if we can save a few necks, cover our R&D costs and get you to upgrade later, it's worth the effort.

 

Also looks like the cleat on the helmet is compatible with the preexisting, shock absorber based Isaac. Pretty cool.

 

Do you actually have to drill the helmet to install it?

 

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I'm pretty sure you could either glue or bolt on the original ISAAC

there's noises about BMW CCA requiring the HANS for '06. I'm going to wait a bit to see how that shakes out. If the HANS is not required, I'm buying this.

 

Gregg - thanks again for another great product. Hopefully by the ARRC this year I'll be wearing one of your products. Now with this, it might be sooner.

 

[QUOTE=gsbaker] It has no lateral support, but neither does a HANS.[QUOTE]

Important to mention that the experts recommend stout lateral head supports, integral to the seat and/or cockpit, for the best lateral protection...along with a good head and neck restraint for forward impacts.

 

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Bolt or glue.

We used the bolts, no biggie. I did 2 helmets in a couple of hours.

And I'll add to this thread that the Issac systems (both of them) are great for multiple driver enduro situations. You only need one system and you can have an infinite number of drivers use it. All they need is the relatively inexpensive helmet kit.

I've now been a part of 5 enduros with the Isaac system and it isn't an issue at all in driver changes. On the track, you don't even know you're wearing it.

 

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Glue? No kidding? I know there are some amazing adhesives out there but to glue a metal bracket to a layered, painted composite helmet seems a little risky! I have no doubt the glue will hold, but will the paint and/or composite layers delaminate when your head is trying to leave your torso?

No thanks...I'll take the bolts with large interior washers and/or backing plates!

 

Guess what's holding on these helmet mounts (right click, save as...):

http://www.isaacdirect.com/images/Video/WSU149.AVI

 

Gregg:

Can you talk a bit about meeting the SFI standard for H&N restraints? What do your devices need to pass the test, and when do you hope to have them tested and passing?

Thanks!

 

From his comments elsewhere, I'll try to stick words in Gregg's mouth:

The helmet in that video isn't some whizzy CF can - it's a plain ol' fiberglass bucket.

&lt;end word sticking&gt;

The adhesive is really impressive. Mix it in a closed room and you'll understand just how impressive.

All you have to do is clean the gel coat off the outside of the helmet before application. (I found some little wire brushes that worked well with my cordless drill - for some dumb reason I don't own a Dremel).

Stick 'em on, cure for....24? hours, then go.

Jarrod

 

I visited Isaac's web site and after reading the instructions which describe removing the paint, gelcoat and top resin layer from the helmet...and even the anodized finish on the bracket, it makes more sense.

I've witnessed numerous structural adhesive pull tests of bonded steel panels where I work. We use a Henkel/Loctite product that is stronger than the 16 ga steel test sheets when pulled in tension, i.e. the metal tears before the joint fails! We've tried bonding steel and composite panels together with less success, but the forces probably far exceed those involved in the Isaac tests.

 

Shmeek,

There are two sides to the SFI coin, the test and the SFI agreement. It's easy to pass the test, but we don't like the agreement. SFI won't certify the product unless the manufacturer signs the agreement.

We will probably produce two versions of the product, the one we have already developed and the SFI version, which will cost more.

They will perform the same.

 

"...it's a plain ol' fiberglass bucket."

Yup, a Bell Sport II.

 

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There are two sides to the SFI coin, the test and the SFI agreement. It's easy to pass the test, but we don't like the agreement. SFI won't certify the product unless the manufacturer signs the agreement.

We will probably produce two versions of the product, the one we have already developed and the SFI version, which will cost more.

They will perform the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Care to elaborate any more on the SFI agreement thing? Just like more for my personal knowledge. Guessing it has to do with the amount of testing, and how its tested.

My concern really is that more sanctioning bodies are going to require that standard. With a HANs now available at $895 for the sedan models, how will a more expense Isaac compete? And will the new Isaac device also pass the tests?

 

I'm really interested in this, but don't seem to have the funds at this second. Any idea how long the "preorder price" will last so I can plan ahead?

 

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I emailed them with that question this morning and haven't received a reply yet. Hopefully next week.

 

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If you order before inventory is built, you will receive a $50.00 discount for your patience ($245 total), so don't wait!

(Due to unexpected demand, the next ship date is early June for Isaac® systems, and mid July for the new Isaac® Link™ model.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

When I bought mine, they didn't charge me until the unit was shipped.