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Old May 7, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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is Aspec the ONLY company who makes a subframe brace?

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Old May 7, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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eibach makes really strong sways check em out.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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I'm running a JDM ITR 23mm rear sway and the a-spec-racing subframe reinforcement bar and love it. Charleston from a-spec-racing was great and had it shipped right away great customer service too.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1999all_motoR_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running a JDM ITR 23mm rear sway and the a-spec-racing subframe reinforcement bar and love it. Charleston from a-spec-racing was great and had it shipped right away great customer service too. </TD></TR></TABLE> what size is the srr bar?
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Old May 8, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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ssr is 19mm
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Old May 9, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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who makes bigger bars?
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Old May 9, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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comptech makes a 22mm
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Old May 9, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1999all_motoR_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running a JDM ITR 23mm rear sway and the a-spec-racing subframe reinforcement bar and love it. Charleston from a-spec-racing was great and had it shipped right away great customer service too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

charleston is a great guy.

i think he's running a 32mm bar with his subframe on his civic.

haha needless to say it's pretty easy to get the rear end to step out and the subframe is holding up...
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Old May 9, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

charleston is a great guy.

i think he's running a 32mm bar with his subframe on his civic.

haha needless to say it's pretty easy to get the rear end to step out and the subframe is holding up...</TD></TR></TABLE>

a hallow bar is different then a OEM ITR bar, you can't say a 22mm ITR bar is equal to a 22mm hallow bar like the one charleston runs. there is a thread around here some were, where some one give a formula for comparing the two
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Old May 10, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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who makes 32mm bar?
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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLUE EH3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who makes 32mm bar?</TD></TR></TABLE>

a-spec does and it comes with their subframe kit. but its gonna cost you a pretty penny
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Old May 10, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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If you take the formula from the Neuspeed website
http://www.neuspeed.com/faq/fa...mport

The 32mm with 2.5mm wall thickness is 7% stiffer than the Mugen 26mm

I currently run the 32mm with 3mm wall thickness which is 27% stiffer than the 26mm Mugen bar.

On my civic with street/track set up I found that the 2.5mm thickness is suitable for high speed tracks like Willow Springs and Button Willow CW #13. For low speed tracks like Streets of Willow the 3mm works a lot better.

I ran the 3mm this weekend at Buttonwillow CW #13 and the car was really hairy entering the bus stop and the dog leg left to magic mountain. A moderate bump and slight lift in the throttle will send the rear end to a slide.

And for those of you who wasn't able to see the display at BW. Here is the prototype EG/DC race bar set up I've been working on.









Thank you!

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Old May 10, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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hey, where can i get a subframe like that, and what type is it, eg, dc type r ?
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Old May 10, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey, where can i get a subframe like that, and what type is it, eg, dc type r ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right in his signature: http://www.a-spec-racing.com

The EG/DC setup looks really nice. Can't wait to see the production model released.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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oh yeah. i got omnis lca
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Old May 11, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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any info about useing the 32mm with omni LCA's? i know for a fact that the silver asr arms will cause the endlinks to be at an angle.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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???<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20zej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any info about useing the 32mm with omni LCA's? i know for a fact that the silver asr arms will cause the endlinks to be at an angle. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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??? me? or you wondering the same thing?
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Old May 14, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20zej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any info about useing the 32mm with omni LCA's? i know for a fact that the silver asr arms will cause the endlinks to be at an angle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the endlinks are adjustable
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Old May 14, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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when is a subframe brace a must have?
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Old May 14, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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When you run large diameter swaybars with non type R subframes, its a safety thing, better safe than sorry. When you tear your subframe and your car is totalled because you ran a type R sway bar an thought you were hot **** then you you will be crying about not getting a somewhat cheap but also high quality part like this. Next suspension mod i am doing is the aspec brace/32mm combo for my del sol.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicFerio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you take the formula from the Neuspeed website
http://www.neuspeed.com/faq/fa...mport

The 32mm with 2.5mm wall thickness is 7% stiffer than the Mugen 26mm

I currently run the 32mm with 3mm wall thickness which is 27% stiffer than the 26mm Mugen bar.

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By my calcs, a 32mm sway is 229% stiffer than a 26mm sway.

(32*32*32*32) / (26*26*26*26) = 2.29

Am I missing something?
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Old May 14, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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32mm HOLLOW, not solid.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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is that ASpec 32mm hollow bar/subframe setup for an ITR suitable for the street?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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If it's stiffer than the Mugen bar...that's awfully stiff, and awfully tail-happy. Probably not for a noobie driver, and without a doubt not necessary for street-only use.
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