How much power will eagle rods handle?
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How much power will eagle rods handle?
How much power will eagle rods handle?
looking to build the bottom of my b16, and i want to get something that wll last and hold up. dont know if its worth the money for some crower, or carillo rods if i can just use eagle and get away with it.
looking to build the bottom of my b16, and i want to get something that wll last and hold up. dont know if its worth the money for some crower, or carillo rods if i can just use eagle and get away with it.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (B16Civic93)
pretty much as much as you want... as much as you can really throw at them...
there are stronger rods....but eagles pretty much work for as much as you want.
there are stronger rods....but eagles pretty much work for as much as you want.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (B16Civic93)
Go with manley.....(full-race)
Better safe than sorry, worth spending a few extra hundred now than a few extra thousand if one breaks.
Better safe than sorry, worth spending a few extra hundred now than a few extra thousand if one breaks.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (95GSRTT)
So are you guys saying that they are just as good as crower or carillo?
if so than why do those cost so much more? there has to be an advantage to using the better more expensive rods as opposed to the eagle rods. but i may be wrong.
my goals are no more than 400, however that is very over estimated, incase of a spike or something of the sort i want the engine to be able to hold up
if so than why do those cost so much more? there has to be an advantage to using the better more expensive rods as opposed to the eagle rods. but i may be wrong.
my goals are no more than 400, however that is very over estimated, incase of a spike or something of the sort i want the engine to be able to hold up
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (B16Civic93)
eagles have been used up o 700 whp before and had no problem. However pauter or manley are usually able to handle that much pressure easier and i think i have only heard of one horror story with pauter or manley.
You will be fine with eagle at 400 whp unless installed incorrectly.
Pauter and manley are like full race. They are great products, but they arent gonna be significantly better for twice the price. Just my $.02
You will be fine with eagle at 400 whp unless installed incorrectly.
Pauter and manley are like full race. They are great products, but they arent gonna be significantly better for twice the price. Just my $.02
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (95GSRTT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for some reason i dont see those as being the same rods as honda rods 
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Pretty similar, actually.
7 Second Car: 5.400" long, .927" pin
Hondas: 5.394" long, .826" pin
Marginally smaller wrist pin, and about the same length. It was a normal H-beam rod with the ARP2000 bolts. He shifted it at 9000. Made over 1350 RWHP on the dyno with a very loose stall converter. I have absolutely no worries on eagle rods.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Pretty similar, actually.
7 Second Car: 5.400" long, .927" pin
Hondas: 5.394" long, .826" pin
Marginally smaller wrist pin, and about the same length. It was a normal H-beam rod with the ARP2000 bolts. He shifted it at 9000. Made over 1350 RWHP on the dyno with a very loose stall converter. I have absolutely no worries on eagle rods.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (B16Civic93)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Civic93 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So are you guys saying that they are just as good as crower or carillo?
if so than why do those cost so much more?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because eagle makes rods and thats about it.
I will be using eagle rods in my turbo ls for 300whp and I feel confident that they'll be fine for that or another 100 on top of it.
By no means are they the BEST rods out there, but for medium power they do the job just fine...but if you want like 600 Id go with something else
if so than why do those cost so much more?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because eagle makes rods and thats about it.
I will be using eagle rods in my turbo ls for 300whp and I feel confident that they'll be fine for that or another 100 on top of it.
By no means are they the BEST rods out there, but for medium power they do the job just fine...but if you want like 600 Id go with something else
sh!t happens.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (FOrSfEd)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FOrSfEd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here we go again</TD></TR></TABLE>
YEP
MANLEY
YEP
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everytime i read a post about eagle rods i want to sell them and get some pauter. i'm doing a fully built motor and i dont want the rods to give on me, people bash the hell out of eagle so i really dont know what to do.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (B16Civic93)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Civic93 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So are you guys saying that they are just as good as crower or carillo?
if so than why do those cost so much more? there has to be an advantage to using the better more expensive rods as opposed to the eagle rods. but i may be wrong.
my goals are no more than 400, however that is very over estimated, incase of a spike or something of the sort i want the engine to be able to hold up</TD></TR></TABLE>
Crower and Carrillo are Billet rods. That is, they're each machined out of one solid chunk of aluminum. Eagle rods are forged from one piece of aluminum, they're formed under pressure to the basic shape and then machined down as necisary. Crower and Carrillo are both made in the US, but Eagle sends their forgings out to China. That's why they're cheaper, but they're still a great rod.
if so than why do those cost so much more? there has to be an advantage to using the better more expensive rods as opposed to the eagle rods. but i may be wrong.
my goals are no more than 400, however that is very over estimated, incase of a spike or something of the sort i want the engine to be able to hold up</TD></TR></TABLE>
Crower and Carrillo are Billet rods. That is, they're each machined out of one solid chunk of aluminum. Eagle rods are forged from one piece of aluminum, they're formed under pressure to the basic shape and then machined down as necisary. Crower and Carrillo are both made in the US, but Eagle sends their forgings out to China. That's why they're cheaper, but they're still a great rod.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (Napoleon Dynamite)
Maybe we just hear Eagle sucks cause a lot of people run on Eagles so when one engine blows up they blame it on the rod and not the tune 
. I treat this like at what Horsepower to change the sleeves. Many people say between 400-450 and yet some people are able to make 525whp on stock sleeves all year while some people crack there sleeves within a couple days. I think the tune is to blame there. Eagle rod work like that I think. The construction is not made as well as Crower and Carrillo if what the guy above said is true, but Eagles will do will do for most people
. I treat this like at what Horsepower to change the sleeves. Many people say between 400-450 and yet some people are able to make 525whp on stock sleeves all year while some people crack there sleeves within a couple days. I think the tune is to blame there. Eagle rod work like that I think. The construction is not made as well as Crower and Carrillo if what the guy above said is true, but Eagles will do will do for most people
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (Napoleon Dynamite)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Napoleon Dynamite »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crower and Carrillo are Billet rods. That is, they're each machined out of one solid chunk of aluminum.</TD></TR></TABLE>It is probably unwise to take the advice of someone who does not know that Crower and Carillo rods are made out of steel and NOT aluminum.
BTW, good American made rods are NOT made out of one chunk of steel but actually two chunks. It has to do with the strength of the grain in the metal.
BTW, good American made rods are NOT made out of one chunk of steel but actually two chunks. It has to do with the strength of the grain in the metal.
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (earl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is probably unwise to take the advice of someone who does not know that Crower and Carillo rods are made out of steel and NOT aluminum.
BTW, good American made rods are NOT made out of one chunk of steel but actually two chunks. </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha.. thats funny, one of the more comic posts of the day!
anyway both Crower and Carrilo (H-beams) are nice peices.. Carrillo h-beams have that beefy *** CARR 70ft'lb rod bolt, which makes them very ideal for high hp where the bolts tend to break.. also Carrillo was one of the first to design the acutal "h-beam" design.. but yea, when rods go it usually is the bolts not the rod, thats why eagle upgraded bolts in the first place (this has been said many times)..
im not 100% sure on the specs of the bolts the Crower unit have, but im sure they are pretty beefy themselves..
with Carrillo you pay for the name mostly, but also for quality, and yes they are forged/made in the US.. and the a-beams are no way on the same leve of the h-beams.. this effects price because the h-beams are in the $1,XXX range.. they almost cost as much as billet T-I rods.. i dont hate on eagle either, but i would choose something diff personally, like pauters or manleys.. if you run eagles just make sure the bolts are the upgraped larger ones..
good luck
BTW, good American made rods are NOT made out of one chunk of steel but actually two chunks. </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha.. thats funny, one of the more comic posts of the day!
anyway both Crower and Carrilo (H-beams) are nice peices.. Carrillo h-beams have that beefy *** CARR 70ft'lb rod bolt, which makes them very ideal for high hp where the bolts tend to break.. also Carrillo was one of the first to design the acutal "h-beam" design.. but yea, when rods go it usually is the bolts not the rod, thats why eagle upgraded bolts in the first place (this has been said many times)..
im not 100% sure on the specs of the bolts the Crower unit have, but im sure they are pretty beefy themselves..
with Carrillo you pay for the name mostly, but also for quality, and yes they are forged/made in the US.. and the a-beams are no way on the same leve of the h-beams.. this effects price because the h-beams are in the $1,XXX range.. they almost cost as much as billet T-I rods.. i dont hate on eagle either, but i would choose something diff personally, like pauters or manleys.. if you run eagles just make sure the bolts are the upgraped larger ones..
good luck
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Re: How much power will eagle rods handle? (earl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is probably unwise to take the advice of someone who does not know that Crower and Carillo rods are made out of steel and NOT aluminum.
BTW, good American made rods are NOT made out of one chunk of steel but actually two chunks. It has to do with the strength of the grain in the metal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Meant to say steel, but you know what I'm talking about Like I said in a different post when I figured the difference between a B16 and a GSR crank was like 19mm, I was drinking and woozy
Either way, for the Outlaw 10.5 race at Milan almost every single one of the cars there was running Steel rods, because I made a point of asking most of them. I know Lutz is on TI rods but understandable because his motor just made over 2800 HP on the dyno, but all these other cars were into the 7's on a normal steel rod. Two of the cars on Eagle rods, One on Scat 4340's, and the rest of the cars were on GRP or BME aluminum and there was one racer who was an *** and wouldn't tell me Not like these are 5000 RPM slugs either, every one of them were shifting at 9000 or above. I run Eagle's in my motor, and unless I was building an 800+ WHP motor I will continue to run Eagles. Crower's and Pauters fail too, nothing is invincible.
BTW, good American made rods are NOT made out of one chunk of steel but actually two chunks. It has to do with the strength of the grain in the metal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Meant to say steel, but you know what I'm talking about
Like I said in a different post when I figured the difference between a B16 and a GSR crank was like 19mm, I was drinking and woozy Either way, for the Outlaw 10.5 race at Milan almost every single one of the cars there was running Steel rods, because I made a point of asking most of them. I know Lutz is on TI rods but understandable because his motor just made over 2800 HP on the dyno, but all these other cars were into the 7's on a normal steel rod. Two of the cars on Eagle rods, One on Scat 4340's, and the rest of the cars were on GRP or BME aluminum and there was one racer who was an *** and wouldn't tell me
Not like these are 5000 RPM slugs either, every one of them were shifting at 9000 or above. I run Eagle's in my motor, and unless I was building an 800+ WHP motor I will continue to run Eagles. Crower's and Pauters fail too, nothing is invincible.
