I was wondering if some M/T drag radials were legal to run in that class, not the et street but the drag radial. I was told it wasnt a bias ply tire but was told different today, can somebody answer this, are they legal to run in that class? Thanx.

 

I dont believe so. BFG or Nitto are true drag radials and those are the only ones allowed in that class

 

yeah i belive he is correct on that one

 

M/T drag radials should be legeal. They are a true radial and they are within the size limit so there is no reason you shouldnt be able to run them.

 

There was a srt-4 running 235-60-15 m/t in the class last year in texas said he was pulling high 1.7's with them. i'm pretty sure they are legal

Chris Green


Modified by Chris Green at 10:22 PM 5/4/2005

 

I think the only rules on tires are
-maximum tire size: 235/60
-must be radial(no bias ply's)

So you can run:
1. MT 235/60/15 Drag Radial
2. BFG 205, 225/50/15 & 235/60/15 Drag Radial

& you can't run:
1. MT 235/60/15 ET street
2. MH 235/60/15 street tire(cause it's bias ply)

 

yeah those and the hoosiers should be totally legal in that class....but who knows AWD cars can have a power adder but RWD can't in that class so obviously it has some issues since it is a new class

 

The M/T is a steel belted radial tire, but I was told that you couldnt run it in that class.

 

No Ply tire!!!!! That includes the PLY M/T tires. They are not legal. BFG and NITTO thay are a good Tire and they are Radials.

 

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MT and hoosier both make belted RADIAL tires now

 

What I think he was trying to say is that the only drag radials that the NDRA has approved for competition are the BFGoodrich, and the Nitto drag radials.

We test all of the drag radials on a tread to void equation, and the only two that have passed are the two listed above. The Mickey Thompson true Drag radial did not pass this test.

 

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We test all of the drag radials on a tread to void equation, and the only two that have passed are the two listed above. The Mickey Thompson true Drag radial did not pass this test.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had no idea the MT drag radial was not legal. There was an srt4 running them last season.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah those and the hoosiers should be totally legal in that class....but who knows AWD cars can have a power adder but RWD can't in that class so obviously it has some issues since it is a new class</TD></TR></TABLE>

AWD cars can not have a power adder in that class only 4/6 cyl FWD cars and 4 cyl RWD can. I thought the same thing as we had WRX's and a RWD turbo S2000 in the class at MIR, the rules I read that someone had in thier trialer didn't specify who could and could not run turbos. Knowing I had no chance against any of those cars I ran at E-town for survival series the next day.

I looked the rules up online when I got home on Tuesday and the rules stated only 4 cyl FWD/RWD cars can have a power adder and 6 Cyl RWD cars MUST remain Naturally Aspirated. That basically states that 6 Cyl FWD can have a power adder.
But the next sentence says Any 6 cyl car found to have a power adder will be in Turbo 6. Of course it also says at the end of the engine paragraph specifications that ANY 6 cyl/Rotary found to have power adders will be placed in Turbo 6 so that goes and excludes FWD turbo 6 cars that may have been legal in the beginning of the specifications. It is a little confusing.

Either way, I am not sure what AWD turbo 4's were doing in that class. As far as the tires go. It says radials for any Turbo car and then DOT approved radials for AWD cars.

Read here, page 12: http://ndra.nopi.com/2005/ndra_sportsman_rules.pdf

Anthony Dowd



Modified by 95GLX at 9:54 PM 5/5/2005

 

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AWD cars can not have a power adder in that class, neither can RWD. Only FWD cars can. I thought the same thing as we had WRX's and a RWD turbo S2000 in the class at MIR, the rules I read that someone had in thier trialer didn't specify who could and could not run turbos. Knowing I had no chance against any of those cars I ran at E-town for survival series the next day.

I looked the rules up online when I got home on Tuesday and the rules stated only 4 cyl FWD cars can have a power adder so I am not sure what AWD and RWD turbo 4's were doing in that class.

Anthony Dowd</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 2005 rule book specifically states "4cyl fwd/rwd entries are allowed 1 power adder, but must run drag radials.Any awd entry will be required to run a DOT approved radial tire."

The only one they do not specify that can or can not run a turbo is the AWD cars.

 

Just edited my post, please re-read and check the link. I would copy and paste but the read only adobe won't let me.

Anthony

 

I think in the first sentence they are just listing the motors that are accepted to run the class. It says"Reserved for OVERHEAD cam 4cylinder, 6 cylinder, OR 2 rotor naturally aspirated motors."

I think I see the confusion with the way it was worded, but they go on to define the additional features allowed later in the paragraph, which was the quote I previously made.


Modified by silviadriftr at 5:13 PM 5/5/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silviadriftr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think in the first sentence they are just listing the motors that are accepted to run the class. It says"Reserved for OVERHEAD cam 4cylinder, 6 cylinder, OR 2 rotor naturally aspirated motors."

I think I see the confusion with the way it was worded, but they go on to define the additional features allowed later in the paragraph, which was the quote I previously made.


Modified by silviadriftr at 5:13 PM 5/5/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rear wheel drive cars are not allowed Power adders in this class.

Glenn Woods
NDRA/NOPI Nationals
Event Coordinator
Tech Director
(404) 366-4700 office
(404) 361-0199 fax
glennw@nopi.com


I think that answers the question....also notice matt keller did not run in eliminations probably because someone protested his use of a power adder. point is that is AWD cars can then RWD should be able too

 

here is what I was told about the AWD cars:

Since most AWD cars are turbocharged, they are allowed a power adder. The power adder would be considered the factory turbo, so there can be no additional power adders included.

Glenn Woods
NDRA/NOPI Nationals
Event Coordinator
Tech Director
(404) 366-4700 office
(404) 361-0199 fax
glennw@nopi.com


it makes no sense but that is the rules

 

Ok a Civic h/b having a gsr motor and a turbo kit is that considered 1 power adder or 2..
I wanna know so i know what class i can enter too run

 

It always has been considered 2 before, but check with Glen@NOPI just to make sure.


Modified by silviadriftr at 6:17 PM 5/5/2005

 

that class I believe it isn't considered a power adder to have a swap but in turbo4 it is

 

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I wanna know so i know what class i can enter too run</TD></TR></TABLE>

no its only one power adder as long as the motor is the same manufacturer of the the car meaning you cant have a 2jz shoved into your civic.

 

Damn, that sucks big time, I really dont understand why not. Oh well.

 

Bitches! shut up and race especially you SBITCHDRFTER

 

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