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new to autoX. should i use the ziex i have or buy new?

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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Default new to autoX. should i use the ziex i have or buy new?

i have a crx with a b16. i just watch my first autoX and its something i would like to do. right now i have some rage vigor (bling) wheel on some ziex tire. anyhow should i track the ziex or should i buy some azenies or something and throw them on some steelies?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Drive it the way it is.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean O’Gorman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Drive it the way it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Don't modify the car... modify your driving ability. Get new tires when you wear those out.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leadfoot321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Don't modify the car... modify your driving ability. Get new tires when you wear those out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats the thing. this is my daily driver and so they are my daily driven tires. so i autoX on them and drive around on the street on bald tires or just do it right from the start and buy a second set? i am just worried about how long ziex will last. if the last like 4 sessions then i will need to buy new tires about every other month and that is not going to save any money.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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You should at least try a session of autocross on the ziex's before deciding if they are going to wear two quickly. From first-hand experience of seeing a friend run those exact tires I would say it's not going to be an issue. I highly doubt you will wear out a set of street tires after four autocrosses.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Those tires will last a good while, I dont think that will be the problem. Drive it like it is, the shitty grip will pay with a better oppurtunity to learn car control.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK4civichatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those tires will last a good while, I dont think that will be the problem. Drive it like it is, the shitty grip will pay with a better oppurtunity to learn car control. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well hell, i thought i was going to have to spend another $1200 to autocross. you guys make it sound like im good to go
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coot_er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well hell, i thought i was going to have to spend another $1200 to autocross. you guys make it sound like im good to go </TD></TR></TABLE>

I got 3 autocrosses and a practice day out of my stock XGT V4s before I killed them, but they probably only had 2/32 left when I started, and if the shoulder's weren't cracking, I could probably still be using them.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I got 3 autocrosses and a practice day out of my stock XGT V4s before I killed them, but they probably only had 2/32 left when I started, and if the shoulder's weren't cracking, I could probably still be using them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so maybe i should buy another set of wheels and tires?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coot_er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so maybe i should buy another set of wheels and tires?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, he's saying he had a set of tires that were pretty much dead when he started, and still got 3 autocrosses out of them.
If you want some idea of tire durability, my last set of Kumho MXs, which would wear pretty quickly in relation to a Ziex 512 lasted 16 autocrosses and 2 track days. They still had a little life left in them when I took them off, but not enough for another track day, which is why I pulled them.
Drive the car as it is.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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dude, even high grip, low tread life "R" compounds usually last alteast a season or two of autocrossing.. and that's with some people driving them to and from the "track"..

i used falken azenis for 2 years autoxing and daily driving.. still have enough tread on 'em..
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got 3 autocrosses and a practice day out of my stock XGT V4s before I killed them, but they probably only had 2/32 left when I started, and if the shoulder's weren't cracking, I could probably still be using them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When I first bought my car it had Energy MXV4s and I put 20,000 miles of driving and 3 autocrosses on them before they needed replacment, and they were 4 year old tires at the time I bought the car.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Old May 4, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude, even high grip, low tread life "R" compounds usually last alteast a season or two of autocrossing.. and that's with some people driving them to and from the "track"..

i used falken azenis for 2 years autoxing and daily driving.. still have enough tread on 'em.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

(Just so others don't get confused) That's because you drive an ultra light low HP car. Add 500lbs and double the HP and you'll start seeing a lot more tire wear.

Like many others in this topic, I too started on those horrid V4s from the factory.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Default Re: new to autoX. should i use the ziex i have or buy new? (coot_er)

Barring your doing something just really dumb, like locking up the brakes for a REALLY long time and flatspotting the hell out of your tires, you should be fine on what you have. Autocross does accelerate tire wear, but you're not going to show up at an event and destroy a perfectly good set of street tires.

Try autocross, and see if it's for you, before you throw down on new wheels and tires.
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