Scraping your feet?
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Scraping your feet?
I just bought my bike a few months ago, so im kinda still a beginer, anyways i was ripping through some turns with some friends over the weekend and i leaned pretty hard in the one turn and my shoe scraped. i have an 02 f4i. I asked my friends about it and my one friend actually has a 4 in mark on his shoe that wore away from scraping all the time... so now i try and pull my feet up through turns, but im worried about hitting the pegs...
anyone else have this problem?
anyone else have this problem?
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Re: Scraping your feet? (WreckedTeggie)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WreckedTeggie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just bought my bike a few months ago, so im kinda still a beginer, anyways i was ripping through some turns with some friends over the weekend and i leaned pretty hard in the one turn and my shoe scraped. i have an 02 f4i. I asked my friends about it and my one friend actually has a 4 in mark on his shoe that wore away from scraping all the time... so now i try and pull my feet up through turns, but im worried about hitting the pegs...
anyone else have this problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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anyone else have this problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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A good set of boots with toe-sliders will go a long way... I don't ride without mine anymore.
Footpegs have generally got small slider-style caps on them, they are also spring loaded. While scraping them has been reported as positively-mind-jarring, it's not anything to really worry about.
Make sure that you're riding with the ***** of your feet on the pegs - this gives you the best source of leverage, as well as tucks your toes in out of the way. If you're still scraping ****, then hang off the bike a little to pull in your lean angle.
*edit* aftermarket rearsets really can make for an uncomfortable bike. I dont know about you, but I've generally held the opinion that my knees and armpits should remain 2 very distinct body parts. That, and I'm all about improving the riding instead of parts on the bike.
Footpegs have generally got small slider-style caps on them, they are also spring loaded. While scraping them has been reported as positively-mind-jarring, it's not anything to really worry about.
Make sure that you're riding with the ***** of your feet on the pegs - this gives you the best source of leverage, as well as tucks your toes in out of the way. If you're still scraping ****, then hang off the bike a little to pull in your lean angle.
*edit* aftermarket rearsets really can make for an uncomfortable bike. I dont know about you, but I've generally held the opinion that my knees and armpits should remain 2 very distinct body parts. That, and I'm all about improving the riding instead of parts on the bike.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ASteele2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
*edit* aftermarket rearsets really can make for an uncomfortable bike. I dont know about you, but I've generally held the opinion that my knees and armpits should remain 2 very distinct body parts. That, and I'm all about improving the riding instead of parts on the bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It can make it more uncomfortable but some people like them much more than OE. They say it feels sportier. And wouldn't changing the rear set improve his riding if he can keep his mind of his feet and pay more attention to the road? Kind of like a steering damper could give you more confidence and you can relax and focus a bit more on the riding.
*edit* aftermarket rearsets really can make for an uncomfortable bike. I dont know about you, but I've generally held the opinion that my knees and armpits should remain 2 very distinct body parts. That, and I'm all about improving the riding instead of parts on the bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It can make it more uncomfortable but some people like them much more than OE. They say it feels sportier. And wouldn't changing the rear set improve his riding if he can keep his mind of his feet and pay more attention to the road? Kind of like a steering damper could give you more confidence and you can relax and focus a bit more on the riding.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ASteele2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but I've generally held the opinion that my knees and armpits should remain 2 very distinct body parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (ASteele2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ASteele2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure that you're riding with the ***** of your feet on the pegs - this gives you the best source of leverage, as well as tucks your toes in out of the way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (ScareyH22A)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It can make it more uncomfortable but some people like them much more than OE. They say it feels sportier. And wouldn't changing the rear set improve his riding if he can keep his mind of his feet and pay more attention to the road? Kind of like a steering damper could give you more confidence and you can relax and focus a bit more on the riding.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't suggest rearsets because it's just patching the problem with better parts instead of fixing it.
I have similar feelings about the stabilizers. I don't think getting one is a good idea until you understand what headshake is and know what to do when it happens. Then I feel a stabilizer is a good idea because it will settle the front down and give you more attention to spend on other things.
It can make it more uncomfortable but some people like them much more than OE. They say it feels sportier. And wouldn't changing the rear set improve his riding if he can keep his mind of his feet and pay more attention to the road? Kind of like a steering damper could give you more confidence and you can relax and focus a bit more on the riding.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't suggest rearsets because it's just patching the problem with better parts instead of fixing it.
I have similar feelings about the stabilizers. I don't think getting one is a good idea until you understand what headshake is and know what to do when it happens. Then I feel a stabilizer is a good idea because it will settle the front down and give you more attention to spend on other things.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't suggest rearsets because it's just patching the problem with better parts instead of fixing it.
I have similar feelings about the stabilizers. I don't think getting one is a good idea until you understand what headshake is and know what to do when it happens. Then I feel a stabilizer is a good idea because it will settle the front down and give you more attention to spend on other things.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We're talking about an '02 F4i still right? Last I heard, the footing on that bike is extremely conservative. Do the whole ball of your foot thing. I figured he'd tried that already. And if that's still not enough, I'd think his only option is to try some rear sets. Or just not lean so much.
I have similar feelings about the stabilizers. I don't think getting one is a good idea until you understand what headshake is and know what to do when it happens. Then I feel a stabilizer is a good idea because it will settle the front down and give you more attention to spend on other things.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We're talking about an '02 F4i still right? Last I heard, the footing on that bike is extremely conservative. Do the whole ball of your foot thing. I figured he'd tried that already. And if that's still not enough, I'd think his only option is to try some rear sets. Or just not lean so much.
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Re: (ScareyH22A)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Or just not lean so much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL!
That reminds me of an Eddie Lawson story. He was one of the very first guys to realize the benefits of putting a knee down, but had problems initially because sliders hadn't been invented yet. After one session he came in to the pits and asked his coach, Kel Carruthers, for some supertape. Kel asked "why?"
Lawson responded that the leather would snag and pull on his leg when he dragged his knee.
Carruthers probably gave him a strange look and said "well, don't."
LOL!
That reminds me of an Eddie Lawson story. He was one of the very first guys to realize the benefits of putting a knee down, but had problems initially because sliders hadn't been invented yet. After one session he came in to the pits and asked his coach, Kel Carruthers, for some supertape. Kel asked "why?"
Lawson responded that the leather would snag and pull on his leg when he dragged his knee.
Carruthers probably gave him a strange look and said "well, don't."
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Re: (ScareyH22A)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
We're talking about an '02 F4i still right? Last I heard, the footing on that bike is extremely conservative. Do the whole ball of your foot thing. I figured he'd tried that already. And if that's still not enough, I'd think his only option is to try some rear sets. Or just not lean so much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have no idea how high the rear sets are on the 02 but from the way the post sounded you're right and it just seems like she needs to adjust foot positioning for now.
WreckedTeggie- I suggest using a rear stand if you have one or just have a friend friend hold the bike from the front while you are on it. Put your feet on the pegs and look down at how they are positioned and if you can adjust them so that less of your foot is hanging off. Make a mental note of how it feels to have your feet in that position. Spend a day riding and adjust your inside foot to that new position around every corner. Soon enough it will become muscle memory and you won't have any more toe issues
We're talking about an '02 F4i still right? Last I heard, the footing on that bike is extremely conservative. Do the whole ball of your foot thing. I figured he'd tried that already. And if that's still not enough, I'd think his only option is to try some rear sets. Or just not lean so much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have no idea how high the rear sets are on the 02 but from the way the post sounded you're right and it just seems like she needs to adjust foot positioning for now.
WreckedTeggie- I suggest using a rear stand if you have one or just have a friend friend hold the bike from the front while you are on it. Put your feet on the pegs and look down at how they are positioned and if you can adjust them so that less of your foot is hanging off. Make a mental note of how it feels to have your feet in that position. Spend a day riding and adjust your inside foot to that new position around every corner. Soon enough it will become muscle memory and you won't have any more toe issues
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
WreckedTeggie- I suggest using a rear stand if you have one or just have a friend friend hold the bike from the front while you are on it. Put your feet on the pegs and look down at how they are positioned and if you can adjust them so that less of your foot is hanging off. Make a mental note of how it feels to have your feet in that position. Spend a day riding and adjust your inside foot to that new position around every corner. Soon enough it will become muscle memory and you won't have any more toe issues </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like a plan
WreckedTeggie- I suggest using a rear stand if you have one or just have a friend friend hold the bike from the front while you are on it. Put your feet on the pegs and look down at how they are positioned and if you can adjust them so that less of your foot is hanging off. Make a mental note of how it feels to have your feet in that position. Spend a day riding and adjust your inside foot to that new position around every corner. Soon enough it will become muscle memory and you won't have any more toe issues
</TD></TR></TABLE>Sounds like a plan
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have no idea how high the rear sets are on the 02 but from the way the post sounded you're right and it just seems like <FONT SIZE="5">she</FONT> needs to adjust foot positioning for now.
WreckedTeggie- I suggest using a rear stand if you have one or just have a friend friend hold the bike from the front while you are on it. Put your feet on the pegs and look down at how they are positioned and if you can adjust them so that less of your foot is hanging off. Make a mental note of how it feels to have your feet in that position. Spend a day riding and adjust your inside foot to that new position around every corner. Soon enough it will become muscle memory and you won't have any more toe issues </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh ****... my bad. I went back and clicked on her sig. Sorry Kate
WreckedTeggie- I suggest using a rear stand if you have one or just have a friend friend hold the bike from the front while you are on it. Put your feet on the pegs and look down at how they are positioned and if you can adjust them so that less of your foot is hanging off. Make a mental note of how it feels to have your feet in that position. Spend a day riding and adjust your inside foot to that new position around every corner. Soon enough it will become muscle memory and you won't have any more toe issues
</TD></TR></TABLE>Oh ****... my bad. I went back and clicked on her sig. Sorry Kate
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usdmPC3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I remember right; you should be scraping a knee before feet. I've scraped my toe sliders a a bunch only to come to the conclusion that my posture needs work. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usdmPC3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I remember right; you should be scraping a knee before feet. I've scraped my toe sliders a a bunch only to come to the conclusion that my posture needs work. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nobody told you? Scuffing your sliders up on a jersey barrier doesn't count.
Nobody told you? Scuffing your sliders up on a jersey barrier doesn't count.
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Nobody told you? Scuffing your sliders up on a jersey barrier doesn't count.</TD></TR></TABLE>
shhhh, youre not supposed to tell anyone! that and sanding down my chicken strips with a belt sander...
Nobody told you? Scuffing your sliders up on a jersey barrier doesn't count.</TD></TR></TABLE>
shhhh, youre not supposed to tell anyone! that and sanding down my chicken strips with a belt sander...
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Re: (usdmPC3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usdmPC3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I remember right; you should be scraping a knee before feet. I've scraped my toe sliders a a bunch only to come to the conclusion that my posture needs work. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with these gents. She needs to move her body's center of gravity towards the inside more in that sharp (relative to speed and radius) of a turn instead of just leaning the bike over.
If you try hard enough, you can be hanging off the bike and have it go through the corner pretty much perpendicular to the ground, or you can be going in a straight line and have the peg scrape. It's all your relative body positioning.
The further your body is positioned into the turn (shifting the CG of you and the bike combined) the less the bike has to lean to create that same CG in order to track through the turn appropriately.
I agree with these gents. She needs to move her body's center of gravity towards the inside more in that sharp (relative to speed and radius) of a turn instead of just leaning the bike over.
If you try hard enough, you can be hanging off the bike and have it go through the corner pretty much perpendicular to the ground, or you can be going in a straight line and have the peg scrape. It's all your relative body positioning.
The further your body is positioned into the turn (shifting the CG of you and the bike combined) the less the bike has to lean to create that same CG in order to track through the turn appropriately.
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i drag my pegs on my 00 f4 as well, basically same set up, and the reason is, i think, that the place they decided to put them is in a 1/2 comfy 1/2 sporty place...
so idk, i don't feel like in in an agressive postion like on a 600rr...
so idk, i don't feel like in in an agressive postion like on a 600rr...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectF4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i drag my pegs on my 00 f4 as well, basically same set up, and the reason is, i think, that the place they decided to put them is in a 1/2 comfy 1/2 sporty place...
so idk, i don't feel like in in an agressive postion like on a 600rr... </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you still have those feeler screw thingys in your pegs?
so idk, i don't feel like in in an agressive postion like on a 600rr... </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you still have those feeler screw thingys in your pegs?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectF4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i drag my pegs on my 00 f4 as well, basically same set up, and the reason is, i think, that the place they decided to put them is in a 1/2 comfy 1/2 sporty place...
so idk, i don't feel like in in an agressive postion like on a 600rr... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Look into some new rear sets or think about shaving your stock pegs down a little. Dragging hard parts is never good, I was dragging a peg on the 250 by the overlook on the westchester side of the bear mt bridge and it caught a crack in the road. Flicked my *** right out of the seat and tried to highside me, I ended up using all the shoulder and somehow through no skill of mine saved it . It's scary **** when they catch.
so idk, i don't feel like in in an agressive postion like on a 600rr... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Look into some new rear sets or think about shaving your stock pegs down a little. Dragging hard parts is never good, I was dragging a peg on the 250 by the overlook on the westchester side of the bear mt bridge and it caught a crack in the road. Flicked my *** right out of the seat and tried to highside me, I ended up using all the shoulder and somehow through no skill of mine saved it . It's scary **** when they catch.
