This should be good.

Maybe I'm in the minority here (nevermind, I am), but for some reason I am still interested in Hondata over Uberdata. Maybe because it's a pre-packaged, professionally assembled product with customer service (as much as you all say it sucks) and there's not as much "guesswork" as there is with a DIY setup like Uberdata.

I am not a computer/electronics genius. I don't even own a laptop.

Which of these two options is better for the NON-DIY guy?

Non-DIY guy meaning, I installed my own turbo setup and fix every part of it when it needs it, but I'm no tuner by any means. I'm still learning, which leads me to my next question --- >

If I can tune Uberdata myself, can I tune Hondata myself? RETARDED question, I know, but I've gotta ask it.

Thank you for putting up with my stupidity in advance

 

I went with Hondata because there are more local tuners that support it.

 

Well there are other OBD-1, non-DIY ems platforms like Neptune that are way cheaper and way better than Hondata.

 

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I don't think any shops here in the Midwest can tune Neptune yet, but that was also on my mind as well.

 

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Mr. Green in Utah can, where are you at?

 

why not mention crome? better than hondata/uberdata...and i'm sure JUST AS GOOD as neptune (never seen it in action)

 

whip factory in IL supports neptune

 

phiz tuned my car with chrome, its definately better then hondata or uberdata. I still feel that hondata is a rip off, when there are other programs out there very similar for free or much cheaper. when you buy hondata, you are paying for the name

 

With the new edition of neptune IMO Hondata has become completely obsolete for obd1. Neptune is similarly priced and 10x more powerful than hondata. The only downside to Neptune is that you cannot make adjustments yourself, but then again most hondata users don't have the equipment to make changes themselves either. Personally though I would never use either one because I am a DIY kind of guy when it comes to tuning my car and i like to make changes...so for me crome and uberdata are the way to go for obd1.


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Its definintly not anywhere close to neptune's capabilities...from what i've read.

 

If you know how to tune, wouldnt it be easy to adapt to a tuning application with time.

Tuning is tuning reguardless what you use. Im sure its more comfortable using something your familiar with.

 

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This is true, Neptune is far above a lot of other stuff on the market, especially for the price. Uberdata is very powerful but it's interface is not nearly as polished as Chrome. I would hazard a guess that Hondata is feeling a hurt from all the other options available to people now, and they should think about making some changes and developing new products.

The plugins in Chrome make the possiblities endless. The plugin for ITBs is incredible, with Alpha-N blending and extended maps for high rpm. The boost tools are excellent as well, and the whole thing is tied together in a well planned piece of software that looks darned professional.

My picks: Neptune &gt; Chrome &gt; Uberdata &gt; Hondata

 

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Reading locations ownz you

Minneapolis.

 

To answer your original question - if you can tune Uberdata, you can tune Hondata. If you'd blow your car up with Uberdata, the chances of it staying in one piece with hondata are only marginally better.

Give Crome a looksy if you want a middle ground in terms of price between Uberdata and Hondata. The support available on it is fairly decent. 95% of the program features work like they should. It is being actively developed by both its author and others.

Good luck regardless of which option you choose.

I'd personally say

Neptune &gt; Crome &gt; Hondata &gt; Uberdata

based on feature set and how much of the feature set works properly. Neptune has adjustments for some things Crome lacks (IAT, ECT fine corrections). Crome has adjustments for some things hondata lacks (as of recently at least - gear correction) and Uberdata (as of 1.7) has a lot of things that half work...

 

I chose uberdata only because after getting a p28 and all the Hondata & software I would of spent around $800+.. I said **** another couple hun $ I could just get a full out AEM set up... Im not that rich or choices would be different in my set up.....

 

the best option is whatever your tuner is going to work with. i went with hondata, thats before neptune, i think even aem was very fresh at the time. been running hondata for over ~ 3 years now, from stage 2 to s200 to s200b, i never modified anything myself, haven't even used datalogin eventhough its availble, but its good to know its available, i can see advantages of neptune over hondata, would be nice if hondata upgraded for b series, or neptune made it available for users to modify settings.. my 2 cents

 

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and that is the sole reason to pick a management, I swear it.

I didn't want to drop a mint on an AEM EMS and a Uego WB, but my tuner is most comfortable with it, and my car drives hard every single day.

 

I know an uberdata tuner in Oakdale. Pm me if you'd like. -Steve

 

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and that is the sole reason to pick a management, I swear it.

I didn't want to drop a mint on an AEM EMS and a Uego WB, but my tuner is most comfortable with it, and my car drives hard every single day.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if your tuner can tune AEM EMS then i am sure he would be plenty comfortable tuning hondata/uberdata/crome

 

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and you'll save a fuckton doing that route too!

ems is nice and all, but 99.9% of ppl that drive hondas have NO USE for it. Most buy it for the name...because they utilize hardly any of the features. if you're running a dizzy with an ems, you're just wasting your time/money and should have stuck with a tuned ecu via chipping

 

live in Miami i have a 96 cx hatch if i turbo it do i need to change my ecu?

 

no matter what platform you use, please get it tuned professionally.
why risk trying to di it yourself, unless you're extremely confident...
i rather blame someone else if something goes wrong lol

 

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I can assure you that he will not touch any of that half-*** bullshit....good luck with that though, ask Rob what washed sleeves look like.

 

and when crome has a 2-step, speed dependent boost control, and anti-lag, let me know.

 

funny you say that, mine are actually fine. leak down was around 1/2% everywhere....thanks

but jack is a mediocre tuner...try going to a real tuner and make some real power, i.e Jason or Howard

 

no thanks, the sticker on the back glass says "daily.driver" and it's the ******* truth. Let me know next year this time how many cars you've been through, much less short blocks.