The turbo 4 guys are working very hard this season. There has been 16+ cars attempting to qualify at each of the 3 Nopi races, helping to make the turbo 4 class the best and most exciting in import racing. I think it would be a really stand up move for Nopi to give back to it's turbo 4 competitors and bump up the payouts from $500 to $1000 for the winner and from $100 to $500 for runner up.

Not too take too much away from the other classes but between Pro FWD, Pro Compact & Pro Street tire there has been an average of only 8 cars attempting to qualify for the three classes combined! While these 3 classes combine for a total of $20,750 dollars worth of the total purse. Pro Outlaw RWD, Pro 4cyl & Pro Stock are each struggling to fill an 8 car field as well yet they take home a combined $16,750 dollars worth of the purse.

I think Nopi has already recognized the turbo 4 class as the class of the future and as the breeding ground for future pro racers. Does anyone agree with me that this would be a fair move and also a smart one for Nopi?

Mike

 

Being a T4 competitor I would love higher payouts but first I need to make it to the money rounds so I can take a trip to the pay window. I may have to go back to bull riding.

 

I'm sure they way they see it the class is popular and will have a full field anyway so no need to pay more. Would be nice if they paid more but it still is a sportsman class.

 

I agree on higher payouts for both the Turbo and Comp 4 classes! This is IMHO what is making NOPI not so much the Pro cars anymore. Again my .02

 

a little off topic but I also think there should be a quickest ET & fastest MPH record...for something to look forward to, bragging rights, resumes, and could also add more excitement to the class ...idunno just something I've been thinking about lately...what do u guys think?

 

this would be cool if nopi did it these guys deserve it

 

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that is how I feel too....the sportsman classes almost always have full feilds and even power street is starting to pick up cars

 

yeah i think that what most people come to see now because they can relate to those cars. i think there should be a better pay out because it cost a good amount of money for alot of people to travel,gas,food and such just for a $500 payout

 

i think it would be better to go the other way, give everyone who qualifies their entry fee back or more.... the winners already get contingency, think about keeping the other 14-15 cars coming back every time..... you cant win them all right?

 

The idea of a fastest MPH or ET would be great for the car that was able to do it twice so that they could back it up, and at the end of the year award the prize. With the way the T4 cars are running already, only 3 races into the season, I have a feeling that by the middle/end of the season NOPI would be having to pay somebody new every race for a faster ET/MPH because this year a lot of heads are going to be turned with how fast the T4 cars are going to go.

As far as increasing the payouts, I as a racer would love to see that happen, but at the same time wouldn't want the other guys to get cheated such as Power Street, Turbo 6, etc because while yes the T4 class is the place the pro drivers are made, there are others who can not afford to compete with these guys, yet still want to race.

In my opinion, I think that if NOPI could increase the payout for the T4 class without affecting any other classes than that would be great. And NOPI wouldn't have to be the only one doing it. NOPI could sit down with the contingency sponsors and see if they could help by increasing their payouts to the winners because if the contingency sponsors know that there is going to be 16 cars out there every weekend running their stickers and whatnot in different cities, then they should be wanting to give back a little more. Right now there are 16 Contingency sponsors and if they all up'd their payouts by $50 that a potential $800 extra per race from the contingency sponsors, but knowing that no one in T4 has one from EVERY contingency sponsor, to say that they had at least 6 different products from contingency sponsors, that would be an extra $300.

I've attended the Import Face Off events down here in the south, and yes while they are not as big the NOPI events, they do have some appealing kickbacks. $35 to race, and $13 to spectate. If you place 3 or 4th then you receive $25-$50 depending on if it was a full class or not (so that takes care of your entry fee). First place is anywhere from $150-$600 depending on what class you are in, but there are no contingency sponosors. I mean maybe NOPI should consider or keep track of the racers who attend each race in a log book, and those racers who attend 3 or more races get a discount on the entry fee or even get in free because while they are driving to all these events to make sure that there is a full field they are spending all the money on gas, food, and hotels, and then have to spend another $65 to get in the gate. NOPI's response might be, "Well how is that going to help grow the sport if we start letting people race for free for just attending 3 or more races?" The answer is this. You get the people in the lanes, make it competitive, and the fans will grow. In business there are things that companies sell where they make no money off of them at all and those are called "Lost Leaders." While Best Buy sells that new DVD on Tuesday for $9.99 they probably made $.02 off it, but they got the consumer in the store with the potential to buy other things with a higher markup. That's what the 3 or more free racer fee would be....NOPI's Lost Leader because then they'll be getting more fans in the stands whom had to pay to get in, and whom are also buying stuff at the consession stands....

But that's just my .02

 

Everybody wants more payouts. Get your friends and families to pay admission, sit in the stands and enjoy the racing.....and get all your buddies to enter the races and someday there will be more payouts.

 

MPH doesnt really matter though.(unless you are a street racer and run from a roll, lol) If you are "doing it correctly" the fastest MPH is going to result in the fastest ET. Why award someone that isnt "hooking"?

Fastest ET I could see though.

 

There is something that I have been thinking about lately. I will give you an example (all of these numbers come from NHRA Sport Compact, but I as just using this as an example for something NOPI can do).

Keep a point system for the T4 class (SFWD for NHRA), then that way you can qualify for a payout and the end of the year. Here is the pay out for the classes that they have in NHRA:

YEAR-END BONUS PAYOUTS


Class Champion 2nd 3rd
Pro RWD $25,000 $10,000 $5,000
Pro FWD $25,000 $10,000 $5,000
Modified $20,000 $8,000 $4,000
Hot Rod $12,000 $5,000 $3,000
All Motor $8,000 $3,000 $1,000

It would be nice if maybe something like this could be done for ALL 3 of the santioning bodies (NHRA/NDRA/IDRC). Because then you could have things like the MPH/ET records for the different tracks, and have a good driver profile of everyone in the class on the websites. IDRC hasn't been updated since 03'. Just my thoughts.

Jason

Total year end payouts: $144,000

 

What are the current payouts for the Nopi points champions? I have not been able to find it on their site.

Turbo 4 gets only 1.7% of the total purse yet they are responsible for drawing a much larger portion of the crowd. All I would like to see is a payout system that is better synchronized with the amount of spectator's the classes are drawing to the race.

Not trying to ask to for too much here but when you look at the amount of racer's showing up for the pro classes and the type of show they are putting on, I just feel that turbo 4 puts on the best show and deserves to be rewarded for that. Many of these guys are traveling just as far as the pro racers, working just as hard to compete, qualifying from an 18-20 car field within less then a 2 second window and then surviving through 4 rounds of eliminations to take a win.

As for comp 4 and powerstreet, I am not sure these classes deserve a higher payout yet. If you remember the phoenix nopi race only 2 cars competed in powerstreet, and at the most recent Virginia event only 5 cars competed in comp 4. I think when these cars fill a 16 car field it would be a good time to bump up their payouts.

 

What is really sad, is Outlaw 10.5W races have a payouts of 10-20,000 to the winner...1 race.

 

also I think they try to make payouts massive for the pro classes to keep cars coming. even though very few actually show up.

 

Ive been saying it for a while that the payouts need to be more.

Example:
B2 would have got paid $750 at Etown this weekend
B3 would have gotten paid $1k at Etown this weekend
SFWD got what $500 yesterday?

Kinda the same thing going on with all the Sanctioning bodies

 

If the payouts are gonna stay weak, they need to workon contingencies atleast.

Look at what the contingencies and **** are for NMRA\NMCA...sick.

 

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Didn't I say that above Dave. Geez...already covered that.

 

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What are they?

I agree, the payouts SUCK... $500 doesnt cover everything (especially travel) even if you dont break anything; thats IF you win the whole event.

 

$500 dont even cover my fuel to the events. $500 would be nice though $600 is nicer and so on. 60ft@15k pounds uses alot of fuel at $2.40/gal. Its all good though.

 

I would love to have more payout. So far after 3 races, I spent almost $ 1000 per race in gas, hotel and somewhat food at the track. Being from Texas and all races except phoenix in east coast, it gets hard on the budget , really really hard.

But again, I do it for the love of the sport and competition, I never go into the races expecting to make my money back at all. I made my commitment and I am sticking to it.

Maybe they should give out payout in terms of gas card haha LOL... JK

On a serious note, other than myself, Arturbo, Brian Ballard and GSC, all the T4 guys are more like local event guys. We were at both east and west coast events it is rather too early to tell, but we'll find out who's really going into all the events and who's only attending a local track. This being the reason, the payout will propably stays the same becasue it is still consider as local event races.

Stan

 

You have to win in order to get the payouts. Increasing the payouts or contingency does nothing for us if we can't make it into the finals.

 

That is true. Last weekend for englishtown i spent nearly 400 dollars to go..technical problems in my qualifying pass, then made one pass down the track. hardly worth it, but obvoiusly the weather had everything to do with it. Generally even the $65 dollar entry fee is enough to make you be forced to eat mcdonalds for the weekend.....even if say in a full 16 car feild the top 8 cars got their entry fee back....that would be awesome.....and the way things are going the top 8 cars are going to be atleast mid 10 second cars. no matter which way you look at it, its not cheap to build a 10 second car. T4 is by far the most competitive class right now. im doing everything i can to make it to as many races as possible, but it does get expensive.

 

Trust me guys, I know the Sportsman racers are the heart and soul of any racing organization. Two years ago, sportsman racers did not even have points, or year end pay outs for them. We added a points championship, year end pay outs(awards, and parts) because we know what the Sportsman do for the industry and the sport. I wish we could pay more, but sponsorship dollars are limited. What the Sportsman get paid now comes directly from NOPI Motorsports, not X-BOX like the Pros. If you take a minute and figure the totals they look alot like this.

$600.00 x 6 Sportsman classes = $3,600.00 an event x 12 = $43,200.00
$500.00 x 3 bracket classes = $1,500.00 an event x 12 = $18,000.00

This is a grand total of $61,200.00 that NOPI Motorsports pays out with out Sponsors of any kind on these classes. Now factor in the Contingency program and the Sportsman racers are paid pretty good.

Don't think we are not trying to figure out a way to come up with more dollars for the Sportsman racers, it is just hard to find extra money for pay outs. We could always charge more, and then return it to the racers, but then it would cost more to race and spectate. By doing this, you would wind up with fewer racers and no spectators.