BRAKE WARS
I do but having new brake pads when i have brand new slotted/cross drilled rotors just sitting around, it wouldnt make any since not to change and upgrade the pads and brake lines.
6th gen brakes are fine for daily driving, but the rotors tend to warp fairly easily. Since I brake early and rarely need to brake hard, OEM pads are perfectly fine for me.
Although, if you're going to run cd/slotted rotors, your pad life is going to suck. EBC green stuff, AXXIS metal masters, AEM... they're all good. With anything other than OEM you're going to have a lot of dust and squealing, although I heard it's AEM is pretty good about that.
Although, if you're going to run cd/slotted rotors, your pad life is going to suck. EBC green stuff, AXXIS metal masters, AEM... they're all good. With anything other than OEM you're going to have a lot of dust and squealing, although I heard it's AEM is pretty good about that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alizezaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who has the best brake rotors, pads, and stainless steel brake lines for a 99 accord coupe?
List your different comparsion and ideas!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Brembo cross drilled, Axxis ceramic pads
List your different comparsion and ideas!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Brembo cross drilled, Axxis ceramic pads
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a brake upgrade doesn't need to depend on engine modifications...it is a safety issue as much as it is a performance upgrade...
a brake upgrade doesn't need to depend on engine modifications...it is a safety issue as much as it is a performance upgrade...
I vote for ban on that dudes *** anyway, His post history on superhonda shows he doesnt know much at all and he posted this same thread across almost every forum.............how stupid can it get.......
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a brake upgrade doesn't need to depend on engine modifications...it is a safety issue as much as it is a performance upgrade...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Absolutedamnly right!!!
a brake upgrade doesn't need to depend on engine modifications...it is a safety issue as much as it is a performance upgrade...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Absolutedamnly right!!!
First of all what ever I am asking if it doesnt concern you well who cares. Like I said before Im just posting on things I have done research on. Another thing you don know what I know just by a damn forum. I have my ideas planned out. Also like I said before a lot of forums dont interest me in what i want or will like to discuss so you can go somewhere else where another forum you want to respond to is for you and not criticizing.
EBC Greenstuff was my first choice, than AXXIS, AEM, and maybe Hawk. I realy havent narrowed it down but I saw that a lot of companys I looked at dont carry my application for EBC but maybe there is someone I just havent really ran into. Ive seen a few though. AXXIS or AEM looks like my choices now. I have a lil while before I decide. Im not putting them on till I get my brake lines anyway. Im going with goodrich stainless steel lines
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a brake upgrade doesn't need to depend on engine modifications...it is a safety issue as much as it is a performance upgrade...</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you're saying that the OE brakes on the Accord are insufficient and dangerous?? I own two Accords (5th and 6th gens.) and found both braking systems to be more then adequate to stop my car under all driving circumstances.
a brake upgrade doesn't need to depend on engine modifications...it is a safety issue as much as it is a performance upgrade...</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you're saying that the OE brakes on the Accord are insufficient and dangerous?? I own two Accords (5th and 6th gens.) and found both braking systems to be more then adequate to stop my car under all driving circumstances.
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in the world of true performance... an upgrade in the brake system is as great as any other performance upgrade.... it could be conciderd the most important. after all you could have the fastest car in the world but if you cant stop.. then your screwwed. many would prefer having control over speed. this is a great upgrade
in the world of true performance... an upgrade in the brake system is as great as any other performance upgrade.... it could be conciderd the most important. after all you could have the fastest car in the world but if you cant stop.. then your screwwed. many would prefer having control over speed. this is a great upgrade
I wouldn't say that's what Nick H is implying. But if you can upgrade the brake system and shorter stopping distances and less fading, then why not? That 10 ft shorter stopping distance makes a huge difference if you have to avoid hitting something in front of you.
i was just agreeing with him and adding more.... i wasnt stating thats what he was implying... so sorry for any confusion .. but none-theless control is key to everything
Cross drilled/slotted dont necessarily mean better. They kill pad life, more likely to crack, and were originally designed to vent gases, which is not a problem with modern brake setups.
I'd stick brembo OEMs, upgraded calipers with more pistons, Axxis pads, and good brake fluid. Good brake fluid can make or break a brake setup.
Also, stainless steel teflon lines are good, but not always best. Some fluids will wear down the lines, and the stainless steel can fray and damage the tubes if not properly maintained or attached. You need to be very careful with a brake setup and vigilant for problems.
I'd stick brembo OEMs, upgraded calipers with more pistons, Axxis pads, and good brake fluid. Good brake fluid can make or break a brake setup.
Also, stainless steel teflon lines are good, but not always best. Some fluids will wear down the lines, and the stainless steel can fray and damage the tubes if not properly maintained or attached. You need to be very careful with a brake setup and vigilant for problems.
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Sorry, it was a response to JDM.Accord's post. I just didn't quote him like I should have...
Sorry, it was a response to JDM.Accord's post. I just didn't quote him like I should have...
I currently have OEM rotors and Hawk HPS pads. With just Hawk HPS pads, they stop VERY WELL. I had some squealing but a spray-on brake lube on the back of the pads helped eliminate all but a few squeals every now and then. I've recommended Axxis Metal Masters and they're no good on OEM rotors. They stop well but the dusting is very dark and makes grinding noises. AEM is ok but it's not much of an upgrade over OEM as Hawk HPS were. I've used AEM, Axxis, and Hawk's so far. I haven't used EBC and don't plan to. They're not friendly on rotors.
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So you're saying that the OE brakes on the Accord are insufficient and dangerous?? I own two Accords (5th and 6th gens.) and found both braking systems to be more then adequate to stop my car under all driving circumstances. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Under ALL driving conditions or under all conditioins in which YOU drive. I've found that stock Accord brakes are very prone to brake fade when pushed hard. Sure they are fine for normal use but saying they are adequate for all conditions is stretching it a little...
So you're saying that the OE brakes on the Accord are insufficient and dangerous?? I own two Accords (5th and 6th gens.) and found both braking systems to be more then adequate to stop my car under all driving circumstances. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Under ALL driving conditions or under all conditioins in which YOU drive. I've found that stock Accord brakes are very prone to brake fade when pushed hard. Sure they are fine for normal use but saying they are adequate for all conditions is stretching it a little...
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brembo BREMBO BREMBO!!...but i have a friend using EBC green stuff, and i dunt notice any increase in brake dust or brake noise, well, not any that i can hear over his exhuast anyways(BMW i6 full exhuast system with no cat...loud shyt)...and my frend wit a 91 accord just got in sum ceramic pads(think brand is Satisfied, he bought axxis but got the wrong ones...FORSALE *HINT HINT HINT HINT*) and brembo crossdrilled..and yea, no noticeable increase in brake noise, we'll see about dust and wear after a few more miles
the legend 2 piston calliper upgrade is still by far the best brake upgrade for the money in my opinion...did this roughly 2 years ago and still no problems...great stopping distance as opposed to stock...
um, I highly doubt anyone here has "warped" any type of rotors
most likely you had unequal pad transfer that caused the pad to SKIP giving the feeling of warped
the legend upgrade is nice but requires a brake cylinder upgrade as well we have found
the only thing anyone needs to do is get better pads, I just hope you all realize that most performance brake pads are not intended for daily driving and require more heat to even begin to working
most likely you had unequal pad transfer that caused the pad to SKIP giving the feeling of warped
the legend upgrade is nice but requires a brake cylinder upgrade as well we have found
the only thing anyone needs to do is get better pads, I just hope you all realize that most performance brake pads are not intended for daily driving and require more heat to even begin to working
ok, seriously dude, lets do some basic crap that'll help you decide the best brakes for the best purpous, for the best price... lets take a look at what your gonna be using them for, track? street? rally (then again iv never heared of a rally accord come to think of it) certin brake calipers are rated diffrently, along with the solinoid, and brake masters, just as sertin pads, are rated for diffrent levels of effectivness, you if get brakes rated extreamly high, then hell yea! ur gonna be able to stop at 160mph no problem, but trying to come to a soft and gradual stop at 50 will hurt! theres diffrent heat temp. to consider, and diffrent compounds, lead, ceramic, copper chip, ect...do your homework, and ask around diffrent companies and manufac... then compile the data, advrage it all out, and you can answer your own question... thats the lodgical thing to do! good luck man, and keep up tunning!!
i've warped my rotors... it really sucks and embaressing when sum1 is riding in your car and everytime you break your car pulses and your steering wheel bounces back and forth
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those are not warped rotors, that is a product of what I am talking about
those are not warped rotors, that is a product of what I am talking about
urbanlegend21,
I think your wrong when it comes to your assessment of doubting warped rotors and atributing this to skip pads. I personally experienced warped rotors before and know for sure the symptoms of it is pulsing brake pedals and vibrating steering wheel. Like you said it is possible to experience skip braking pads but the majority of the problems relating to those symptoms are definitely warped rotors. Another disagreement I have with you is the need to upgrade brake cylinder for the legend caliper upgrade. I have done the swap on my 95 accord along with NickH on this and like he said I haven't had a problem with my brake setup and very satisfied with the increase in brake power despite no upgrade in brake cylinder.
I think your wrong when it comes to your assessment of doubting warped rotors and atributing this to skip pads. I personally experienced warped rotors before and know for sure the symptoms of it is pulsing brake pedals and vibrating steering wheel. Like you said it is possible to experience skip braking pads but the majority of the problems relating to those symptoms are definitely warped rotors. Another disagreement I have with you is the need to upgrade brake cylinder for the legend caliper upgrade. I have done the swap on my 95 accord along with NickH on this and like he said I haven't had a problem with my brake setup and very satisfied with the increase in brake power despite no upgrade in brake cylinder.






