I dont know much about engines but, whats the difference between these motors, I know b18 has less hp, more torque and non vtec and the b16 is VTEC. What are some other difference between the two and which one is faster.

 

you could go on and on about the little differences between the engines, but basically the larger displacement, lack of vtec, and transmissions, are the main differences
they will each have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the application.
the best thing for you is to do a search, the button is on the top right of the page, type in what you want to know about, there is a ton of info on this site.

 

A B16 will eat a B18B alive, that's the difference.

 

B16A's: weak torque, good top end, short geared tranny
B18A/B's: good torque, weak top end, long geared tranny

 

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um yea...plz explain this statement... id like to know how it would. seeing how usdm b16s only have a 18 hp and shorter geared tranny as the advantage and less torque over the ls motors

but yea the in stock and in equal weighted cars the ls motor and the b16s are pretty equal.

also alot of the problems with the ls motors is the tranny...and thats easily corected with a tranny swap

 

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um yea...plz explain this statement... id like to know how it would. seeing how usdm b16s only have a 18 hp and shorter geared tranny as the advantage and less torque over the ls motors

but yea the in stock and in equal weighted cars the ls motor and the b16s are pretty equal.

also alot of the problems with the ls motors is the tranny...and thats easily corected with a tranny swap </TD></TR></TABLE>




Stock b18b vs. Stock b16a lets say in a hatch will be an even race depending on driver. B18b will jump a car out of the whole then about 1/2 way down the quarter the VTEC Yo will start to pull at the end of track.

From what i have experience a b18b will usually beat a b16a (160hp) in a quarter with everything equal. Freeway racing a b16a has the advantage but from a stop a b18b has advantage.

TORQUE RULES.

 

Having recently gone froma stock B18B motor toa stock B16B I can tell you that even with the much hyped "TYPE R POWA"......the B18B even with a stock geared tranny is a far better performer under 4.5k RPM. I guess the extra 20ish TQ makes that much of a difference.

B16B is still faster though.

 

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From what i have experience a b18b will usually beat a b16a (160hp) in a quarter with everything equal. Freeway racing a b16a has the advantage but from a stop a b18b has advantage. QUOTE]

LMAO, how does this work? If a B16 beats a B18b in "freeway driving", how can it win in the 1/4 mile? the 1/4 mile is all top end, and so is "freeway driving". Maybe in your experiences the driver of the B16 was a newb, and perhaps the B18b driver also.

 

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um yea...plz explain this statement... id like to know how it would. seeing how usdm b16s only have a 18 hp and shorter geared tranny as the advantage and less torque over the ls motors

but yea the in stock and in equal weighted cars the ls motor and the b16s are pretty equal.

also alot of the problems with the ls motors is the tranny...and thats easily corected with a tranny swap </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you want your car to be fast below 4.5k rpms (for whatever reason that may be), then go ahead and buy a B18b. If you're gonna drag or do anything else above 4.5k rpms, then try out a B16 motor. Doesn't the motor specs help you out on your question?

 

OMFG! This has been discussed 1 Billion ******* times: Search is your friend!

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they will each have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the application.
the best thing for you is to do a search, the button is on the top right of the page, type in what you want to know about, there is a ton of info on this site.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Very True!

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Stock b18b vs. Stock b16a lets say in a hatch will be an even race depending on driver. B18b will jump a car out of the whole then about 1/2 way down the quarter the VTEC Yo will start to pull at the end of track.

From what i have experience a b18b will usually beat a b16a (160hp) in a quarter with everything equal. Freeway racing a b16a has the advantage but from a stop a b18b has advantage.

TORQUE RULES.</TD></TR></TABLE>





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LMAO, how does this work? If a B16 beats a B18b in "freeway driving", how can it win in the 1/4 mile? the 1/4 mile is all top end, and so is "freeway driving". Maybe in your experiences the driver of the B16 was a newb, and perhaps the B18b driver also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Quarter mile is not all top end. Most stock cars do not see over 100mph! I consider 80-120 miles to be a top end run, not 0-80. What Volcom is saying is that beyond 90 mph the B16 will have the advantage!


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If you want your car to be fast below 4.5k rpms (for whatever reason that may be), then go ahead and buy a B18b. If you're gonna drag or do anything else above 4.5k rpms, then try out a B16 motor. Doesn't the motor specs help you out on your question?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh mister uneducated one, take a gander at the following dyno sheet!




Looks like the B16 gets its *** whooped until around 6500 rpms, then it begins to make power.

Save your money and buy a GSR!

 

Having owned a B18B I will say this much...if both motors raced and had the SAME transmissions the B16 would get a butt raping. Period. If you argue with that then you have obvioulsy never driven both motors.

 

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TORQUE RULES.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not from my experience. My B18B was not NEARLY as fast as my B16A was.

 

b18b gets my vote, and like stated above you can search as to why.

im tired

 

I had a 97 coupe with a jdm LS and no SI ever beat me, and of a roll they wont start to pull me till 4th gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Whole shot RULE!!!!

 

How about you put those together?

 

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Out of all this arguing, someone finally tries to compromise!

 

Here's another idea. Can the LS idea and go B20. Although the B20 is only 138cc larger, the difference is anything but subtle.

 

i dont care what anyone has to say, ill keep up with and pass a b18b with a b16 trans thats in the same car any day...........b16 power! dont mess with it

 

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Haha, whatever floats your boat!

I rocked an LS/Vtec Hatch this weekend and an S2K; but who really cares! I'll take displacement over Vtec anyday!

 

Higly modded b16 gets my vote.

Not for long though, im basterdizing a ls block.

 

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damn, since when do you save money buying a gsr motor? i think that you meant, get a 1.8L or bigger block to go with that vtec head. save your money and build an econo b20v.

 

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damn, since when do you save money buying a gsr motor? i think that you meant, get a 1.8L or bigger block to go with that vtec head. save your money and build an econo b20v.</TD></TR></TABLE>


However you do it, just stay away from 1.6's! There are junk motors IMO. Why waste alot of money to make no power! For the price of a 2nd gen B16 swap, you can buy an H22 swap.

 

I dont think that there has ever been a single topic thats been discussed more than this one. Its all a matter of preference...and i prefer to have tq over the almighty VTEC. I have alot of first hand experience with both...and its my personal opinion that a b18b is a better engine than the b16.

The LS is MUCH better for daily driving even in stock form. You dont have to downshift everytime you come to a small hill like with a b16. Id like to see a b16 go up a massive hill in 5th gear at 2.5k rpms...in fact id like to see it go anywhere in 5th gear at 2.5krpms

In a game as technologically advanced as this....i just dont understand why one would still choose a b16. There are far better choices out there.

Most of the b16 fanatics that have ridden in my car now own b18a/b's. Being able to hit the gas and go without waiting for the "magical" vtec to hit is an awesome feeling. The b16 just feels so damn week...and their vtec just doesnt impress me. Its almost like the sound changes and thats it. I dont call it the Wee16 for nothing

 

Integra motors (other than GSR and Type-R) aren't worth the money. B16A is the better motor

 

a b16 is only a little faster than a ls motor
but the ls motor has much better low end and will be a better motor for sriving arount the town
i use to own a b16 in my teg and let me tell you it was slow as *****. only very little vaster than a ls in the higher rpms

proof
integras and 99-00 si pratily weight the same (lesss than 100lbs differance)
a si is rated faster than an integra ls. rated at mid to high 15's compared to the ls low 16's ( BOTH SLOW AS *****)
therefore a b16 is faster

if both motors were put in a lighter car let say a hatch. then the b16 will be even more faster than the ls due to the ls weight so the low torque from b16 will matter less.

but if the ls had a b16 trannie it would be a different story but were talking about 100% stock here