The switch from a standard bar to clip-ons is even harder than I thought.

Even in high-speed turns, the SV could be leaned down pretty far with just a push of the bars. This bike takes a lot more effort, and more than I'm willing to put on with 30-mile old tires.

It is F***ing fast, though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The switch from a standard bar to clip-ons is even harder than I thought.

Even in high-speed turns, the SV could be leaned down pretty far with just a push of the bars. This bike takes a lot more effort, and more than I'm willing to put on with 30-mile old tires.

It is F***ing fast, though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What size is the rear tire? 190?

If I were you, I'd get your ride heigh, sag and preload set up.

What sorts of corners are you having problems with?

Oh and are you moving your body around to help you turn?

 

I got a dollar that says you're straight arming the bike because you aren't used to the new seating position.

Make sure your elbows are bent and you are very light on the bars, counter steer first by using one hand then if that still isn't fast enough start using the push/pull method.

Lean forward on the bike a bit and try to get it so your forearms are parallel to the ground, you will get much more leverage. I think you might be pushing down and forward on the bars instead of just forward.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got a dollar that says you're straight arming the bike because you aren't used to the new seating position. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, that's surely what's happening.

I just need to get used to it. The SV wasn't easy to drive when I first got it, either.

 

Just push on that bitch and hang on for dear life!

 

Also use your weight on the pegs. Weight on the inside peg and pressure on the tank with the outside leg. Once you are in the turn, put weight on the outside peg so that you have the ablility to move your inside foot/leg some more and use your arms to keep you in the turn.

You will get used to it. Is it an '05? I know the previous year models of R6 would fall into turns without any effort because of the 60 front tire and more extreme rake. I think they slowed it down a bit for the '05 with a 70 front and less rake. More stability is a good thing though.

 

Yeah, it's an 05.

 

You probably just need to get used to it since your clipons are lower than a handlebar. Try to drop your elbows and when you countersteer push straight forward instead of downward. Soon you'll be flickin your bike like nothing.

 

its all in how you position your body...

 

The push pull method as Falcon stated!

 

The push pull method as Reborn stated! Don't you remember MSF!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Indiana Jones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The push pull method as Reborn stated! Don't you remember MSF! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Never took it.

Or my M license exam, for that matter.

 

Can't be bothered to to all that MSF business when you're buying a new bike every 9 months. It takes a lot of research and looking to find the bikes ya know.

 

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You're such a hater. I'm gonna go browse stuntlife and order some 12 bars for my R6 y0

I had a pretty nasty trial by fire with motorcycles, so I really didn't feel the MSF was necessary. I also didn't feel like waiting 4 months to start riding.

 

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Yup. You gotta tuck and lean. Your chest should be 3-6 inches above the gast tank and you should be leaned bent over enough so that the top of your helmet is inline with your windscreen. This is of course for high speed and hard cornering. Its not only counter-steering but also hard leaning. Also remember to always look your way through the turn. When entering a hard corner, dont stare ahead or become fixated on whats in front of you. You should be looking around the corner. Your body will move with your head and eyes. Youll pick it up soon enough your just getting used to the new bike.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mag00n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also remember to always look your way through the turn. When entering a hard corner, dont stare ahead or become fixated on whats in front of you. You should be looking around the corner. Your body will move with your head and eyes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I knew all this stuff. The mechanics are just a big change from the old bike. Now I know what people meant when they said the SV was "tossable."

 

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Yeah, I knew all this stuff. The mechanics are just a big change from the old bike. Now I know what people meant when they said the SV was "tossable."</TD></TR></TABLE>

none of you know the meaning of "tossable" until you have jumped a 929 and 954.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a pretty nasty trial by fire with motorcycles, so I really didn't feel the MSF was necessary. I also didn't feel like waiting 4 months to start riding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Never too late to sign up. There's always something worth learning no matter how long you've been riding.

Signed,
The Hater

 

Take the MSF course, you will be happy you did. I was in it with a guy who was riding for 25 years. He learned a bit.

Dont think you are above it or that you wont learn anything, cause you will.

Keep in mind that only 1.5% of motorcycle riders in the USA have taken a safety or training course. That is why there are so many tards getting into wrecks and what not.

 

The wait for the MSF course is just too long. It doesn't offer me an appreciable discount on my insurance, and requires me to spend more money and register as a student at NOVA Community College.

A little bit about how I learned to ride (not sure how many of you have heard this, it's pretty wild) - I was a tourist in Vietnam with 4 buddies and two tour guides. We wanted to go to this particular village which was at the top of a mountain, and the only way to get there was by motorcycle.

The day we set out to leave was miserable, right in the middle of monsoon season. That meant that only around half of the mountain road was even visible under vast swaths of mud. We rented Minsk 125s (Russian bikes) and went up the mountain.

The road was only 1 lane wide, and pretty much blind in most places. We had to listen to hear the tour buses and such coming down the mountain. To our right was a rock wall; to our left was a cliff, with a drop of hundreds of feet and increasing as you climbed the mountain.

We were all in shorts and tees, most of us were wearing sandals. We were given these rinky-dink open-face helmets without straps. The ride was totally insane. If we saw a patch of mud coming up, we had to speed up to get through it - even if it was leading to a hairpin turn with the cliff-drop on the outside - or else we'd stall and have to pull the bike out of the mud. Absolute madness, do or die.

The point of that story is, I learned to ride motorcycles in a setting that even some experienced riders wouldn't put themselves in. Sometimes you have to have blind, even undeserved confidence in yourself in order to make it through something. Once you learn in a situation like that, you come out of it pretty sure of your abilities.

 

Like I said, dont think you wont learn anything. Also, it is worth the money spent on it.

Even if the wait takes forever, what does that matter?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2.2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like I said, dont think you wont learn anything. Also, it is worth the money spent on it.

Even if the wait takes forever, what does that matter? </TD></TR></TABLE>

A lot of people told me not to start riding until I took the class, and for a while I listened to them. Finally I just got sick of waiting.

And I'm sure I'd learn a lot, but I'm the kind of person that learns by doing, not by being instructed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The wait for the MSF course is just too long. It doesn't offer me an appreciable discount on my insurance, and requires me to spend more money and register as a student at NOVA Community College.

A little bit about how I learned to ride (not sure how many of you have heard this, it's pretty wild) - I was a tourist in Vietnam with 4 buddies and two tour guides. We wanted to go to this particular village which was at the top of a mountain, and the only way to get there was by motorcycle.

The day we set out to leave was miserable, right in the middle of monsoon season. That meant that only around half of the mountain road was even visible under vast swaths of mud. We rented Minsk 125s (Russian bikes) and went up the mountain.

The road was only 1 lane wide, and pretty much blind in most places. We had to listen to hear the tour buses and such coming down the mountain. To our right was a rock wall; to our left was a cliff, with a drop of hundreds of feet and increasing as you climbed the mountain.

We were all in shorts and tees, most of us were wearing sandals. We were given these rinky-dink open-face helmets without straps. The ride was totally insane. If we saw a patch of mud coming up, we had to speed up to get through it - even if it was leading to a hairpin turn with the cliff-drop on the outside - or else we'd stall and have to pull the bike out of the mud. Absolute madness, do or die.

The point of that story is, I learned to ride motorcycles in a setting that even some experienced riders wouldn't put themselves in. Sometimes you have to have blind, even undeserved confidence in yourself in order to make it through something. Once you learn in a situation like that, you come out of it pretty sure of your abilities. </TD></TR></TABLE>


LOL.. my brother tosses me the keys to his CBR900RR one day and w/a smirk on his face says, "Go for it."

 

I am not trying to be a dick at all, but you make take this the wrong way...

You're attitude about riding will get you into trouble. There are plenty of people who think they know quite a bit about riding but cant complete the course because the learned how to ride on their own, and they learned how to ride wrong.

I dont care how many people say that they are good enough to teach themselves. I also dont care about how many people say that you dont need to take the course. What I do care about is watching people who have been riding for years look like total asses on their bikes because they dont know how to ride right.

Dont let your pride keep you from getting an education meant to save your life. NO ONE is too good for that. I almost refuse to ride with anyone who hasn't taken the course personaly. They just dont have their minds near as much on safety.

 

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Excuse deemed invalid because the majority of your time is spent doing spanky.

You sign up, stick a post it on your fridge and forget it for four months. Not sure why it's so hard "to wait" for the course.