is it true?

 

going straight or going around corners? or both? or with the same driver? or with you riding it? or with you on one and Bostrom on the other? or just on paper? or on the dyno? or with modified airboxes? or with modded exhaust? or fuel injection? or with a power commander and all the above?

 

hahahaha

 

When I had my R6 I had:
B&M air filter
K&N stage2 jetkit
V&H Titanium slip on
dynoed @ 101whp.

. . .oh yea I was beating CBR's with the same amount of mods. In a strait line and on curves.

 

R6 faster than a CBR600? are you kidding? Of course it is.

It has more power
It's lighter
It has more ground clearance....

umm...I just got that from all the magazines I've read about the R6 and CBR600 over the last couple of years...

 

R6 faster than a CBR600? Yup, but it sure inst as comfortable or as well built.

 

isn't it 30 pounds lighter or so???

 

ditto on the comfort level between the r6 and f4i. After sitting down on friend's r6, the tank was very narrow, and seating position was slanted foward placing more weight on hands/arms. Also, not as confidence inspiring on the turns.

 

also forgot to mention, my friend loved the smoothe throttle transition from partial to full throttle, no jerking. As for my friend's r6, I couldn't say I didn't like the sound of the carbs, it was something else.

 

I've heard lots of people say the R6 and R1 are much more "twitchy" than the Honda couter-parts.

 

you can get a steering dampner to fix that....

 

you cant fix a motor twitch with a steering dampner. The motor is twitchy, not the steering.

 

"you can get a steering dampner to fix that...."

A damper (acutally damper, not dampner) is good for aiding with headshake.But just as a note, alot of time people put dampers on to mask handling problems. Instead of acutally adjusting the bike and suspension which is a better cure. In terms of a handling and twitchy front end, throwing a damper on to cover it up is not always a good idea. The fact that the front end is not sorted out is still there, just masked to the rider.

 

it's funny how people recommend those steering dampeners as one of the critical things to buy, on the same list as frame sliders. So far, I have yet to see the steering get twitchy b/c I haven't pushed the bike to 6/10 of it's limit. Too many stories of little pebbles screwing things up.

 

I've just ridden a R6 with a steering damper and a R6 without one at a track day at Buttonwillow, and to tell you the truth I felt alot more confident with the damper.
without the damper the bike was just a little to reponsive to everylittle steering input I gave it.

::DISCLAIMER:: these are just my opinion from my personal experiences.

 

oh yeah....

#1 I never said it was "critical" to get the sterring damper.
#2 You say you've have yet to see the steering get twitchy??? From what I see on your signature, You don't even own a R6.

 

I wasn't talking about *you* specifically saying get a damper. I was talking in general that when I bought MY bike (shouldn't matter what it is) it was recommended from other riders that I should get frame sliders and a steering dampener as the two most important parts. Because I didn't notice any twitchiness, I don't see the need for a steering dampener where when I rode my friend's r6, it was very (twitchy) quick to steering inputs creating a need for a damper. That should tell you that the bike I ride doesn't need a damper while the R6 does and last time I checked, they aren't cheap.

 

Theres 'owt wrong with dampers chaps. They have come a long way since the slush tubes of old. The new gas filled WP, Ohlins etc are pretty effective at reducing high speed oscillations whilst allowing a decent amount of feel at low speed. Most bikes can be run without one but if you increase the rear ride height to improve the turn in then you will trade stability. Theres no such thing as a bike that does or doesnt need one, its how its ridden?
Anyway, yes the Yam is quicker speedwise and for producing *** ache if you dare to ride it for more than 70 miles at a time below a ton. Honda all the way, ditto with the new blade vs GSXR and new R1, its quality not quantity